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				<description><![CDATA[ Here is my 2500pt Imperial Guard army list, let me know what you think: (new to the game)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Company Command Squad<br /> Vox/ Plasma Gun/ Regimental Standard/ 1 Power Weapon/ Carapace Armour/ Krak Grenades<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> Vet Storm Trooper/ Power Weapon<br /> 9 Storm Troopers/ Grenade Launcher/ Flamer<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Platoon Company Command Squad<br /> Vox/ Melta-Gun/ Grenade Launcher/ 1 Power Weapon/ Krak Grenades<br /> <br /> Alpha Squad: Vet Infantry Squad (Grenadier Doctrine)<br /> Vox/ Grenade Launcher/ Autocannon Crew<br /> <br /> Beta Squad: Vet Infantry Squad (Grenadier Doctrine)<br /> Vox/ 2 Grenade Launchers<br /> <br /> Charlie Squad: Vet Infantry Squad (Grenadier Doctrine)<br /> Vox/ 2 Grenade Launchers<br /> <br /> Delta Squad: Vet Infantry Squad (Grenadier Doctrine)<br /> Vox/ Grenade Launcher/ Flamer<br /> <br /> Echo Squad: Infantry Squad<br /> Vox/ Grenade Launcher<br /> <br /> Alpha Red: Heavy Weapons Squad<br /> 3 Lascannon Crews<br /> <br /> Beta Yellow: Heavy Weapons Squad<br /> 2 Autocannon Crews<br /> 1 Missile Launcher<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Leman Russ Demolisher/ Pair of Plasma Cannons/ Lascannon<br /> <br /> Super Heavy Support:<br /> Baneblade/ 3 Twin-linked Heavy Bolters/ 2 Lascannons/ Demolisher Cannon/ Mega Battle Cannon + Co-Axial Autocannon.<br /> <br /> Allied Deathwatch:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Deathwatch Space Marine Librarian/ Force Weapon<br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> 9 Deathwatch Space Marine Veterans<br /> 2 Power Fists/ 1 Pair of Lightning Claws/ 2 Power Weapons/ 2 Heavy Bolters<br /> + 1 Deathwatch Rhino<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any suggestions?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well first of all it's an illegal list. Your allied units are an illegal choice and you can't include a Baneblade in non-Apocalypse games. <br /> <br /> As for the legal parts, it's pretty weak. You have almost nothing that can take out AV14, which unless you're going up against Dark Eldar a lot, you're going to encounter at 2.5k levels. <br /> <br /> 1: Drop the Voxes and Power Weapons on the normal squads, change the Grenade Launchers to Melta or Plasma, and ditch the Autocannons seeing as your squads are likely to be pretty mobile. Grenadiers is also pretty expensive.<br /> <br /> 2: Heavy Weapon Squads are generally seen as too expensive for what they do.<br /> <br /> 3: Buy some Chimeras for your Veteran squads with the points saved from ditching Grenadiers. <br /> <br /> 4: Get rid of the Plasma and Lascannons from the Demolisher since they'll be Snap-Firing most of the time.<br /> <br /> 5: I'm assuming your Storm Troopers are armed that way because of the models you have. Either way, you won't be getting anything out of them that you can't get with 5 guys and 2 Plasma Guns. <br /> <br /> 6: You also only have 1 Infantry Squad in the Platoon. You have to have 2 minimum. <br /> <br /> Really, it's a very mish-mashed list. First thing to do would be to fix the illegal options, then work on the above points. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:14:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Imperial Guard &amp; Deathwatch Xenos Defenders 2500 Point Army List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Also, as a quick point, if you're using the NATO phonetic alphabet for naming squads, B should be Bravo, not Beta. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:19:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I prefer beta<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I only have these models so need to work with what I have, will work on legalising it as you say, so I have to add a second platoon company command squad right?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:41:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well then it just sounds odd having Beta instead of Bravo. <br /> <br /> You need a second Infantry Squad: another 10 Guardsmen. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:22:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool, sorted! Thanks for your help, I like the sit back and shoot approach for now, and yes baneblade, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span> if someone says no to it, they're probs not worth having a game with as it's for fun. Reduced to 1999pts as well now, removed deathwatch.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:43:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry but that's a stupid argument, saying "I can use whatever units I want. If you say no to that you're a terrible player". You're still constrained to the units available in the Codex, you're not free to add other things under the pretense of casual play.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:19:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Valkyrie]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good job it's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> then <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> haha<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Have made simple swaps, added in a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>ccs</span></span>  and removed the deathwatch to make it legal]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:29:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nope, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> is 3000 points, and so far you haven't edited the original list at all. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:39:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool! Looks like I can gets some more deathwatch then and make that alliance work! Thanks again for your help.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:50:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Where exactly are you getting the Deathwatch from? No such rules for them exist in the current edition. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:51:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If it is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> (which you should have specified earlier), then you don't need to abide by any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>.<br /> <br /> If it is not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span>, then no Superheavies. Most games aren't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span>, so make sure to agree with your opponent before playing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Oct 2013 01:03:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Elric Greywolf]]></author>
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