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				<title>Pre Heresy vs Post heresy</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys/galls,<br /> <br /> I was wondering if someone has any experience using a pre heresy army vs post heresy armies. <br /> I'm starting with an all pre-heresy Emperor's Children army, and I was wondering if it would even be remotely fun/competitive vs my normal meta (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>, Tau, Orks, Nids). Mainly Tau.. <br /> <br /> Because if it just doesnt work, I need to consider constructing an army list that will also work very well as clear proxy's not causing confusion using the normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> codex. (palatine squad becoming <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> veterans eg.) <br /> <br /> On another note, what would be a good guideline for a nice fluffy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> list? I'm planning on getting at least: palantine squad, 2x relic speeder, contemptor dread, fullgrim, 5  Cataphractii Terminator and an assault squad. But dont really know where to go from there.<br /> <br /> But lets focus on the pre vs post heresy question at first.<br /> <br /> Cheers!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:09:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Koenbeest]]></author>
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				<title>Pre Heresy vs Post heresy</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I may be mistaken, but are Legion lists/rules even compatible with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> ones? I think you may need to run it as an C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:14:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ curran12]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They apparently were never designed with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> in mind nor tested for balance. It is purely built for 30k vs 30k.<br /> <br /> Saying that however, no reason you can't have a friendly game with some time travelling Legionaires.<br /> Forgeworld mention in the <a href="http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/B/Betrayal_FAQ_Errata_v.2.pdf" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>: Betrayal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> & Errata</a> that both sides should use the Age of Darkness Force Org as well as some friendly modifications to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> codex to be more fitting with the era.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:07:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Voodoo_Chile]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Pre Heresy vs Post heresy</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I wouldn't hesitate to use the Heresy army list in a regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> game, so long as it's a friendly match and you aren't too concerned with balance.<br /> <br /> Based on what I've heard and looking at the list myself (I haven't played a 30k game yet, because damn is it expensive), the legion list is probably weaker than a C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> list. Infantry-wise, so long as you're leaving out Primarchs, you don't gain a whole lot. You also lose <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(8);'>ATSKNF</span>, which is a really big deal. As for vehicles, they're pretty similar to what's available for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, plus some Forgeworld Land Raider variants and Contemptor dreads, none of which are considered <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> when added to a C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> army. To me, it mostly looks like your standard Forgeworld fare: overpriced or weaker than a 6th edition codex. Your mileage may vary.<br /> <br /> Anyway my friends and I fully plan on playing 30k vs. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> when our armies are ready, to represent the legions during the Great Crusade, fighting Orks and Eldar and the like. If nothing else it will look cool.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:07:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CalgarsPimpHand]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks guys<br /> <br /> I gues I will try to build a list that is competitive in both scenes (since <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>fw</span> contemptors and special landraiders are legit in both 30k and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>). This is probably not going to be easy, but I'll give it some hours to try and find a good army list.<br /> <br /> So on that note, how competitive are contemptors in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>? (never even used a normal dread before). I want to add at least one, but perhaps I can go for 3 if they are not only cool but also competitive.<br /> <br /> Any tips from your end building a fluffy and cool 30k emperors children army, that would also do moderate to good in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> scene (using C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and applicable <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> rules)? Anything I should definitely add or not add? The models are expensive as you all know, so I dont want to buy something that will never see battle due to uselessness. <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Aug 2013 22:33:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Koenbeest]]></author>
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