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				<description><![CDATA[ ok guys well this is the list i have been trialing for best part of 3months!!!! i tend to play in a very competitive area with many cheese lists and in a tournament that takes <br /> place in 3 weeks time i know the standard will be very high. i have tweeked the list over and over and played countless games against so many diff players and armies!.<br /> <br /> so the list is as follows,<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> GRAND MASTER MORDRAK: <br /> <br /> 4 GHOST KNIGHTS ---- 4 X HALBERDS<br /> <br /> <br /> ELITE:<br /> <br /> VINDICARE ASSASSIN<br /> <br /> TROOPS:<br /> <br /> STRIKE SQUAD 10 GUYS ( PSYBOLT ) <br /> <br /> 7 X STORM BOLTER AND FORCE SWORD<br /> 2 X PSYCANNONS <br /> JUSTICAR<br /> <br /> RAZOR BACK,<br /> <br /> TWIN LINK ASSAULT CANNON<br /> PSYBOLT AMMO <br /> <br /> STRIKE SQUAD 10 GUYS ( PSYBOLT ) <br /> <br /> 7 X STORM BOLTER AND FORCE SWORD<br /> 2 X PSYCANNONS <br /> JUSTICAR<br /> <br /> RAZOR BACK,<br /> <br /> TWIN LINK ASSAULT CANNON<br /> PSYBOLT AMMO <br /> <br /> FAST:<br /> <br /> INTERCEPTOR SQUAD 10 GUYS,<br /> <br /> 5 X STORM BOLTER AND HALBERDS<br /> 2 X STORM BOLTER AND FORCE SWORD<br /> 2 X PSYCANNONS<br /> JUSTICAR <br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT:<br /> <br /> NEMESIS DREADKNIGHT -- <br /> <br /> PERSONAL TELEPORTER<br /> GREAT SWORD<br /> HEAVY INCINERATOR <br /> <br /> NEMESIS DREADKNIGHT -- <br /> <br /> PERSONAL TELEPORTER<br /> GREAT SWORD<br /> HEAVY INCINERATOR <br /> <br /> OK PPL SO WHATS BEEN VERY GOOD FOR ME STRATEGY WISE IS MORDRAK ALONG WITH THE  GHOSTS INTERCEPTORS AND NDK  IN UR FACE FIRST TURN! THEY GET UP FAST CAUSE PANIC AND PRETTY MUCH STOP ALL THE GUARD AND TAU PLAYERS FROM SITTING IN CORNERS AND SHOOTING THE WHOLE GAME, TAU MAY WASTE 1500 POINTS ON SUITS AND RAIL GUNS THINKING THEY SAFE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> PPL GET ACROSS THE BOARD BUT IM THERE INSTANT AND THEY CRUMBLE WITH WEIGHT OF FIRE SO CLOSE ALOT RENDING SHOTS AND <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(462);'>OFC</span> HEAVY INCINERATOR TEMPLATES!!!! 2 STRIKE SQUADS CAN EITHER RIDE THE RAZORS OR LET EITHER ONE WIZZ DOWN THE FLANKS <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> SQUEEZE THE ENEMY <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> CLUSTER TOWARDS THE MIDDLE WHERE THE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> ARE SAT WAITING, AGAIN THEY HAVE ALOT OF SHOTS AND ARE GREAT MIDFIELD HOLDERS <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> CAMP ON OBJECTIVES. FURTHER MORE THEY CAN ALWAYS COMBAT <br /> SQUAD <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> WELL. GRAND STRATEGY IS BRILL IF I NEED MORE SCORING UNITS <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(472);'>ETC</span>. PPL MAY CRY ANTI FLYERS???.... WELL WITH 90% OF MY ARMY IN UR FACE AND BY THEN IN COMBAT WITH U WHO DO U HAVE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> SHOOT <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>? PSYCANNONS ARE ALSO GREAT FROM EVERYWHERE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> TAKE CARE OF THESE I NORM MANAGE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> AVOID THEM. OH AND EVEN IF I DONT GET FIRST TURN IM BEHIND EVERY BIT OF BUILDING AND HIDING LIKE HELL BELIVE ME LIST WORKS!!!<br /> <br /> RIGHT THERE IS THE LIST AND QUICK DETAILS OF HOW I PLAY <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>, HAS TAKEN ME AGES <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> GET <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> THIS POINT WITH THE ARMY ITS NOT QUITE THE STANDARD <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> LIST U WILL FIND ONLINE BUT <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> REALLY REALLY WORKS AND LIKE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(411);'>WE</span> ALL KNOW <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> AINT JUST THE LIST ITS THE PLAYER BEHIND <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>!!!!<br /> <br /> SO IM POSTING <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> HERE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> SEE WHAT U GUYS THINK, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> GIVE IDEAS <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> PPL LOOKING TOWARDS THE BROTHERS <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> AN ARMY AND <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> SHOW <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(411);'>WE</span> HAVE MANY LISTS OTHER THEN <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> SPAMS AND REPEATED UNITS OVER AND OVER <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> PLZ DONT HOLD BACK AND PLZ DO GIVE ME YOUR HONEST OPINIONS THIS LIST <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span> IS UNBEATEN IS 10 GAMES!!!! DONT WANT PPL JUST SAYING ITS RUBBISH  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> SMASH U TURN 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(472);'>ETC</span> TELL ME HOW AND WHY IF U DO THINK ITS WEAK!! <br /> <br /> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I GET ENOUGH REPLIES AND INTEREST I WILL <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(462);'>OFC</span> POST PICS AND TELL U HOW I GET ON IN 3WEEKS TIME!!!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd like to pretend that as soon as you started to post your army list, you got injected with high-strength steroids and got SUPER ANGRY.]]></description>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ok sorry about the caps button <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> but lets focus on the list please, had alot of views already would love to hear from people and get a feel of peoples <br /> opinions etc really want this to be a list that stands out and surprise alot of faces when i submit my list!! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  someone must have an opinion anyone.....]]></description>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ looking for any help alot of people and no opinions... norm people jump all over lists guessing most agree with this list people should give it a try confusion and surprise is a great factor in winning games <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ does mordrak have the special rule that lets you make other units scoring?...I think it is grand strategy...if so the list is very solid...should do quite well..not to sure if you need the swords on the dreadknights...if Mordrak does not have grand strategy then I think you are light on troops for 2000 pts...I realize you can combat squad for 4 scoring units but then the ones outside the metal boxes are helldrake wieners...or easy enough to torrent off the board...the two razorbacks will give up first blood on a lot of occasions...but that does not mean I do not think they will serve their purpose...all in all this is a very solid list...good job...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:11:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes he has grand strategy and time and time again have used it to turn the course of the game having extra units to score is awsum when needed, but relic games are almost perfect for this list <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br /> i agree completely on the razors being able be popped quickly and often are but they do whats needed from them! swords on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> ok maybe ur right and could be a little overkill and not needed some times but if i wanna go monster hunting dam they <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>gd</span> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> love the look on people faces when they play armies that sit back and shoot whilst norm people walk across the board to them when i turn up in ur face of ur gunline turn one <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:36:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Seems like a solid list. What do you use the Vindicare for?]]></description>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ He's another unit thanks to infiltrate is up in the for front of the battle well about 35" away hiding in some cover but with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>gd</span> line of sight. if they have some big <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> sat there what i cant quite get to or is tucked behind a mass of troops etc i can pick it out and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(4);'>4d6</span> is norm enough to blow the thing up, failing that i pick the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> out from a crowed and stop the invun save they have so when i troops get there my opponent cant play silly games and use him as a tank for all the shots <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:13:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What about replacing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> greatswords with daemonhammers on the SSquad justicars? Maybe a librarian instead of the vindicare and a halberd? Divination is sweetness, and while i love Vindicares i think they're a little risky while a librarian is pretty reliable.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Bigfashizzel]]></author>
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				<title>Re: PLZ HELP!! 2k Grey Knights competitive tournament list!!! plz c+c this list is a beast!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi and thanks for the advice, i like the idea of hammers on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span>'s i never remember they hit on base initative and over look them so often i may fiddle with them in a few games and try them out again!<br /> as for a Libraian, i like him alot and rolling on the div table is always a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>gd</span> shout. i just think in this list although re-rolls would be nice losing my assassin and being able pic out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> and the ability to remove invuns from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>'s etc is more beneficial to how i play this, if i was camping out with a big blob of guys somewhere i totally agree  and again i will play a couple of games with him in place never say never is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>gd</span> moto to have if someone has an opinion i will give it a go see how it works for me many thanks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Aug 2013 07:52:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SUPAthug86]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You don't really need the hammers, since the only thing they add is the special rule (you allready get 2xS from the fist).<br /> <br /> The Razorback look a bit expensive for their survivability, especially with a 24inch range. If you take Rhinos you can fire psycannons from the top hatch, and transport your ten man squads (or put the Psycannons in the Rhino while the other combat squadded half holds some objective in the backfield).<br /> <br /> Or take just a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> with Psymunition, a lot more economic but still enough of a threat to draw some fire.<br /> <br /> Maybe some hammers in the Interceptor Squad to give them something against high T or high save enemies (the riptide or the wraithknight come to mind).]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ DrunkPhilisoph]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also a great point on razor load out, in the games i have played over and over they get ignored as people start to panic and look at whats in their face rather then behind the threat and plodding up the board espc if i hug the flanks with them <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> i am still toying with laz plaz and dropping psybolt on them at this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> being able threaten more then one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> a turn could be needed should then be so spread out i cant hassle them all at once whilst close to them. hammers on ints.... norm keep this unit as cheap as poss they never last and they aint ment to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span> i pick a weak target for them yes but often still die quick but served role and tied up a unit for a turn or two whilst <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> finish thier prey <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:45:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SUPAthug86]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I meant putting hammers in the strike squads, not on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span>.  Also, giving the interceptors a hammer means then can pop vehicles.]]></description>
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