<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Armour Colours??"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Armour Colours?? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916773.page GMT Armour Colours?? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916831.page GMT Armour Colours??
 daddyorchips wrote:
Some changed to say feth you to the emperor, some changed because the chaos god of their choice liked it better, others didn't change. your mileage may vary

But how? xD Did they sit there with little paintbrushes and do it themselves?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916840.page GMT Armour Colours??
Fluff-wise, they probably got servitors to do it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5916920.page GMT Armour Colours??
 BrotherOfBone wrote:
 daddyorchips wrote:
Some changed to say feth you to the emperor, some changed because the chaos god of their choice liked it better, others didn't change. your mileage may vary

But how? xD Did they sit there with little paintbrushes and do it themselves?

Nurglings.

Nurglings love to paint. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917024.page GMT Armour Colours?? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917090.page GMT Armour Colours??
In that context there is no reason not to suppose that any such renegade would not repaint his own armour and wargear and personalise it to represent his new allegiances and path. Psychologically, actually painting over his old colours would be a big step for a Marine considering the psycho-conditioning and indoctrination he will have undergone. Painting over his colours would be a significant event and almost certainly something he would choose to do for himself. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917321.page GMT Armour Colours??
 BrotherOfBone wrote:
 daddyorchips wrote:
Some changed to say feth you to the emperor, some changed because the chaos god of their choice liked it better, others didn't change. your mileage may vary

But how? xD Did they sit there with little paintbrushes and do it themselves?


How does a marine's armor get painted and repainted after repair in the first place? They don't sit around with hobby brushes, it's really not that hard to repaint things...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917329.page GMT Armour Colours?? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917358.page GMT Armour Colours?? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917406.page GMT Re:Armour Colours?? I would find it hard to imagine anyone having to pick up a physical brush in the 41st millennium, unless of course they're painting gang signs on the hive walls. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917684.page GMT Re:Armour Colours??
The Deathguard just got dirtier. I don't think they actually painted green over the white.

The Word Bearers had new marks made just before the launch of the Abyss. It went from gray to crimson, perhaps a sign of trust between the rebel mechanicus and the Word Bearers.

The Thousand Sons probably changed through warp influence. I often believed that it was just a mistake made in the HH artwork early on and they just stuck with it.

The Alpha Legion just seems to be a retcon problem.

The Space Wolves just seemed to have run out of Fortress Grey and had to mix a few colors until they almost got it right.

The Dark Angels tried to look less emo and ended up looking like servants of the Wizard of Oz.

The Black Legion is clearly explained.

The Night Lords, White Scars, Ultramarines, Salamanders, Imperial Fists, Iron Warriors, Iron Hands, Emperors Children, Blood Angels and Raven Guard haven't changed all that much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917801.page GMT Re:Armour Colours??
 DeffDred wrote:
The Thousand Sons probably changed through warp influence. I often believed that it was just a mistake made in the HH artwork early on and they just stuck with it.


*As far as I know*, those Sons still loyal to Magnus have kept their red armour. It's only Ahriman's coven and their dust warriors that have changed to blue, which would have been shortly after the Rubric was cast and Ahriman's subsequent exile.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5917818.page GMT Armour Colours??
 DEUS VULT wrote:
How high must you be to spend any kind of time thinking about this sort of stuff?



Very? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5924493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5924493.page GMT Armour Colours?? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5924498.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5924498.page GMT Armour Colours?? HH novels there is a small bit about how all the Son of Horus repainted their armour themselves. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5925594.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5925594.page GMT Armour Colours??
Sons of Horus became the Black Legion and repainted.

World Eaters discovered Khorne and repainted, some say using blood.

Word Bearers repainted at the start of the heresy to show their new devotion to the dark gods.

Death Guard became corrupted by Nurgle to look like walking corpses covered in disease.

Thousand Sons adopted the colour of Tzeentch.

Emperor's Children, who were already wearing the colour of Slaanesh painted themselves with every colour and thing of interest they could find. I imagine those not turned into noise marines would look like some of the people you'd expect to see in a gay pride parade.
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Think of it in the context of a real-life monk burning hi bible and painting over a medieval artwork showing the Passion of Christ. It would be a huge spiritual and psychology turning point, and act of destruction, rage and hatred as well as being a physical symbol to show this change and rejection of old beliefs and faith.

It would not be like someone popping open a tin of paint and re-doing the bathroom.

Don't forget that the vast majority of Traitor Marines are not mindless. Even Devotees of Khorne are not mindless at least, not at first and the re-painting of their armour would be merely the first step on the path to damnation and madness. Form follows content as they say.

Aside from that it is sometimes said that warriors of Khorne are red or black from all of the congealed blood that they invariably become coated in. Beneath the gore a World Eater might still have white and blue armour.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5927240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5927240.page GMT Armour Colours??
cadbren wrote:

Emperor's Children, who were already wearing the colour of Slaanesh painted themselves with every colour and thing of interest they could find. I imagine those not turned into noise marines would look like some of the people you'd expect to see in a gay pride parade.

...meaning 7 ft overmuscled monsters covered in mutilated flesh, excrements and unspeakable witchcraft? NOW I understand why some people perceive that as a threat to their way of life
joking, obviously.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5927541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5927541.page GMT Armour Colours??
 Icculus wrote:
Orks use paint brushes all the time! To mark their looted vehicles and to make waaagh banners. Or perhaps it's the grots that do the actual painting.


and make them go faster
or make them luckier


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 Gogsnik wrote:
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Think of it in the context of a real-life monk burning hi bible and painting over a medieval artwork showing the Passion of Christ. It would be a huge spiritual and psychology turning point, and act of destruction, rage and hatred as well as being a physical symbol to show this change and rejection of old beliefs and faith.

It would not be like someone popping open a tin of paint and re-doing the bathroom.

Don't forget that the vast majority of Traitor Marines are not mindless. Even Devotees of Khorne are not mindless at least, not at first and the re-painting of their armour would be merely the first step on the path to damnation and madness. Form follows content as they say.

Aside from that it is sometimes said that warriors of Khorne are red or black from all of the congealed blood that they invariably become coated in. Beneath the gore a World Eater might still have white and blue armour.

First remember that back in 30k, only the Emperor's children got to wear the two headed eagle on their chest, so most space marines didnt have to do too much defacing of their armor as it only carried their legions insignia.


Well then think of it this way:
The iron warriors and night lords did not change their armor at all. If they look different from how they did 10,000 years ago it is because they had to find replacement parts. The iron warriors may have added more skulls and defaced some imperial symbols while adding others but really they embraced chaos mostly out of hatred for the emperor and bitterness at the rest of humanity. The night lords dont really worship chaos at all and they are just doing their own thing. They were already about the terror tactics.

The alpha legion repainted their armor to impersonate whatever legion/chapter they are infiltrating. If you see real alpha legion colors off in the distance it is probably cardboard cutout decoys. They repainted their armor to mask themselves as their targets changed.

The Deathguard did not repaint their armor. They are still wearing pure white armor underneath all the slime, bile and puss. If they replace parts or build new vehicles i doubt they would bother to paint them at all.

The sons of horus painted themselves black when horus died. This wasnt their step to damnation, it was putting on black to attend a funeral.

The word bearers definitely chose to repaint their armor enmass to change their allegence and make it known. They were the first to be corrupted and took the most deliberate approach to it.

The world eaters at first did not repaint their armor leaving it white but it got covered in blood and they liked it. They reforged their armor to take on khornes colors. Khorne the god of battle/blood/ and war is big on having uniform red and brass. They take their gear seriously and would repaint it as appropriate.

The Tsons did not repaint their armor. They still run around in red. Ahrimans faction changed to blue after getting outcast by Magnus.

Emperors children. Paint? why stop there? We got disco balls and laser lights...it is all about bling

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However, it can be said that the Traitor Legions colours require little change as they are the colours of traitors afterall! The re-painting of armour is perhaps more of an issue for later generations of Astartes rather than the original Traitor Legions.

There is no need though to fixate so obtusely on the very specific act of 're-painting'. The OP explained he struggled to envisage a chaos Marine spending time altering the appearance of his armour and the answer to that query is that a Marine's armour is more than just protection and equipment, it is the very mark of the Astartes, in the source material even it is said that a Marine without Power Armour is no Marine at all. The armour and its appearance, however minutely defaced, is hugely significant in-and-of itself to the wearer and any observer and why a Marine would do this personally. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5928142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5928142.page GMT Armour Colours?? 40k's evolution: In 2nd edition all Khorne Berzerkers wore armour the colour of blood and brass because every one of them had daemon armour, so they didn't really get any say in the matter. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5928366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5928366.page GMT Armour Colours??
 Exergy wrote:

The sons of horus painted themselves black when horus died. This wasnt their step to damnation, it was putting on black to attend a funeral.

Abaddon changed the Sons of Horus to the Black Legion not out of mourning, but out of disgust. "Horus was weak," Abaddon said. "He had the galaxy in his grasp and let it slip away. If the Emperor hadn't killed him, I would have done it myself." The change in colour and iconography was intended to sever all ties to Horus's name.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5937822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544367/5937822.page GMT