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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all!<br /> <br /> I'm working on a list to go up against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> at the 1850 pt level. I'm trying to ignore the Flying Circus builds.<br /> <br /> Let me know what you think!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 1 (290pts)<br /> Bloodthirster<br /> -2 Greater Rewards<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 2 (575pts)<br /> Herald of Slaanesh<br /> -Exalted Reward<br /> -Locus of Beguilement<br /> -Psyker Level 2<br /> -Steed<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch<br /> -Exalted Reward<br /> -Psyker Level 2<br /> -Disc<br /> <br /> Karanak<br /> <br /> Skulltaker<br /> -Juggernaut<br /> <br /> Elite 1 (215pts)<br /> Bloodcrushers x4<br /> -Bloodhunter<br /> --Lesser Reward<br /> -Icon of Chaos<br /> -Instrument of Chaos<br /> <br /> Troop 1 (90pts)<br /> Daemonettes<br /> <br /> Troop 2 (90pts)<br /> Plaguebearers<br /> <br /> Fast Attack 1 (150pts)<br /> Screamers of Tzeentch x6<br /> <br /> Fast Attack 2 (205pts)<br /> Seekers of Slaanesh x15<br /> -Heartseeker<br /> -Icon of Chaos<br /> -Instrument of Chaos<br /> <br /> Heavy Support (165pts)<br /> Soul Grinder<br /> -Baleful Torrent<br /> -Daemon of Slaanesh<br /> <br /> Fortification (70pts)<br /> Aegis Defense Line<br /> -Comms Relay<br /> <br /> <br /> Other notes:<br /> I've thought of perhaps trading in the Bloodthirster for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(233);'>GUO</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 2, 2x Greater Rewards, or chucking the Soul Grinder in favor of 10 Fleshhounds.<br /> On the other hand, swapping the Tzeentchians with a Skull Cannon and adding a few more seekers might help some...<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------- Post Mortem ----------------------------------- <br /> <br /> In the end, I swapped up the list a bit:<br /> <br /> HQ1<br /> Lord of Change - Greater, Greater, Lesser, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 3<br /> <br /> HQ2<br /> Herald of Khorne - Exalted, Wrath, Juggernaut<br /> Herald of Slaanesh - Greater, Lesser, Beguilement, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 2, Steed<br /> Herald of Tzeentch - Exalted, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 3, Disc<br /> <br /> Troop1<br /> Daemonettes x10<br /> <br /> Troop2<br /> Daemonettes x10<br /> <br /> Fast Attack 1<br /> Flesh Hounds x 15<br /> <br /> Fast Attack 2<br /> Screamers of Tzeentch x 6<br /> <br /> Fast Attack 3<br /> Seekers of Slaanesh x15 - Heartseeker, Icon, Rapturous Standard<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 1<br /> Skull Cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 2<br /> Soul Grinder - Daemon of Slaanesh, Phlegm<br /> <br /> Randomly generated stuff (If interested):<br /> Warlord: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span><br /> Warlord Trait: Death Incarnate<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>: Staff of Change<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> GR1: Daemonic Resilience<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> GR2: Unbreakable Hide<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> P1: Precognition<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> P2: Misfortune<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> P3: Bolt of Change<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(579);'>HoK</span> ER: Doubly Blessed (Unholy Frenzy, Etherblade)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(579);'>HoK</span> Locus: Wrath<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(577);'>HoS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>: Witstealer Sword<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(577);'>HoS</span> GR: Touch of Uncreation<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(577);'>HoS</span> P1: Invisibility<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(577);'>HoS</span> P2: Hallucination<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(576);'>HoT</span> ER: Grimoire of True Names<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(576);'>HoT</span> P1: Bolt of Change<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(577);'>HoS</span> Locus: Beguilement <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(576);'>HoT</span> P2: Misfortune<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(576);'>HoT</span> P3: Prescience<br /> <br /> <br /> The random rolls took forever to compile all the rules and I kept forgetting that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> had a 3+ Armour Save and kept buffing it with the Grimoire instead of the Hounds or the Screamers.<br /> The game ended up really fun, I was up against Plague Marines, Nurgle Bikers, Tau Fire Warriors camping an Aegis and a Heldrake.<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> took 4 full turns of shooting from everything and kept tanking through.<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(579);'>HoK</span> jumped in with the Flesh Hounds and tied up 6 Nurgle Bikers, 3 Obliterators, 6 Plague Marines+Champion, and Nurgle Lord of Chaos on a Bike for 3 turns thanks to the requirement to challenge. The Herald would have taken it to 4 if not for Soul Blaze from the Warlord Trait.<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(576);'>HoT</span> and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(235);'>LoC</span> took out 3 Broadsides and the remaining 4 Shield drones ran off the table.<br /> The Soul Grinder and Skull Cannon really just sat there and took pot shots, I should have been moving them up during the game.<br /> The Seekers outflanked a turn late and into Plague Marines... And then proceeded to do nothing. Three turns of attacks and I got a single six, not their best day.<br /> In the end, he had First Blood and Slay the Warlord, I had Line Breaker, we both held our Emperor's Will objectives and he managed to contest the Crusade objectives.<br /> Meh rolls, bad decisions on both sides and random rolls had both of us wondering if we should keep going at times.<br /> <br /> In the future, I might swap out the Slaanesh units for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>, perhaps an extra screamer or two and try again. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ FangedOne]]></author>
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