<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army TMC's 3/5 games and I was pretty bored at the amount of space marines in general. Now some friends got back to it and I bought some Orks I'll probably be painting for the rest of the year. This is nearly all the figures I have save for some ~40 slugga boyz, 3 Nobs, 2 Burna Boyz and a KFF Big Mek, of course I'll be getting more after some games when I know what I want.

HQ

Warboss / Mega-Armour, Attack Squig, Kybork Body, Bosspole, Kombi-Skorcha = 135

Warboss / 'Eavy Armour, Power Klaw, Kombi-Skorcha, Attack Squig = 110

ELITES

10 Lootas / 2x Mek / Megablasta = 150

6 Burnaboyz = 90

6 Tankbustas = 90

TROOPS

10 Nobz / 4x Power Klaw, 3x Big Choppa, Painboy, Waagh Banner, Heavy Armour = 410
* Trukk = 35

2x 30 Shoota Boyz / 3 Big Shootas, Nob / Heavy Armour, Big Choppa = 2x 215

FAST ATTACK

2x 5 Warbikes = 2x 125

3 Deffkoptas / Twin-Linked Rokkits, Bigbomm = 150

TOTAL : 1850


I didn't think the KFF Big Mek would be very interesting, neither would be a slugga boy mob. So. The job of the Megaboss + Nobz is to kill, they have a huge amount of power klaw attacks that are probably going to hit at 3+. Getting there is a bit shaky since they travel with a Trukk, if there's nothing to sneak behind from I guess they just have to chance it. Shoota boyz are great anti-infantry in my opinion, cheap, numerous and lots of shots, I consider them vastly better than slugga boys who basically have low S close combat attacks that strike last. Tankbustas are the cheapest possible S8 shots I believe, and they have some chance of craking tanks in close combat, such as that ever happens, lootas are the better option overall I think but I like to have some S8 shots too. I split Warbikers because they don't benefit from mob rule in any way really, Deffkoptas are supposed to flank and kill tanks / use the cheapest large blast available to Orks for killing thrash infantry. Burnaboys are supposed to lurk somewhere until they can shoot their massed flamers, I really don't have any faith in them as a close combat unit however, that's what the second Warboss is for. If anything the burnaboys can support him if necessary.

I have played just one match of 6th edition, Necrons vs. CSM. What I figured was that everybody always has some kind of a cover save (so massed AP2-3 is probably worth nothing), vehicles die instantly to monstrous creatures which in turn are as annoying as ever, penetrating hits do nothing unless you have AP 1 or 2 (lol @ Blitza-Bomma). So how about an army full of multidakka? I could also have had Necrons but I would have got a bunch of Destroyers which I found entirely rubbish and too expensive. Better play Nobs, they aren't expensive at all...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5926658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5926658.page GMT Re:1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army
So here's some things that I see right off the bat:

1. Save points: Drop the Kombi-Scorchas. They're a waste of time with having one shot/game unless you're going up against Nids, IG, or other Orks.

2. Meks with the Lootas: Drop em. Run full out 10 Lootas with Dakkaguns. You go from a possible 8-24 shots/turn to a possible 10-30 shots/turn. They have better range than the KMB.

3: Deffkoptas: Trade out TL Rokkits for TL Big Shootas as the situation warrants. If you're tank hunting with them, take the Rokkits, otherwise go for the TL Big Shootas to mow infantry down.

4: Burna Boyz: Good if you're running them in a Battlewagon. Consider buying one.

5: Tankbustas: Eh... I could take 'em or leave 'em to be honest. I'd spend the points on more lootas personally.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5927437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5927437.page GMT 1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army kff or sags don't give any to lootas/burnas
Maybe get more burnas and slap em in a trunk
No kombis cus they are silly
And tankbustas are better to ditch em and grab more lootas
And maybe make the warbikes a full squad of 10]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5927998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5927998.page GMT Re:1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army
Spraypaint Black

Quick paint skin green.
Brown on cloths.
Boltgun on metal.
White for eyes/teeth.

Paint over with a brown stain, use a big brush, just don't goop too much on.

Use a dull coat(spray can variety) when you are done.


It like the dip method, but with better results and doesn't make as big of a mess.

You can pain an entire Orc Army very very quickly and they look good. If you want them to look even better pick one highlight color for each.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928037.page GMT 1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army drybrush all the metal parts and wash it with oil
wash on oil mixed with aba black on the back/legs
put on all the pretty parts for earring and such
and finish in more mud cus you gotta make a good paintjob pretty
my mek in my pic was my first model thats not my paint scheme i use anymore. hope maybe this helps for painting
is about 20mins per boy ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928123.page GMT 1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army
~Keep the Kombi Skorchas. Do not underestimate the power of a S5 AP4 template. Even though it only fires once, good god it'll earn its measly points cost back so easily.

~Warbosses are generally only good with MEGA ARMOUR or a BIKE, the standard one isn't going to be all that great I reckon

~Don't put meks on your Lootas, only attach to burnas and then only if they are in a vehicle (which they always should be because they are expensive and fragile)

~Tankbustas are trash. Cool trash, but trash

~Nobs are generally crap on boyz mobs now because of the challenge rules. I wouldn't bother, especially only with a big choppa]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5928135.page GMT Re:1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army
DieselJester wrote:Welcome to the WAAAGH! my friend. May Mork and Gork watch over you.


Thanks!

DieselJester wrote:So here's some things that I see right off the bat:

1. Save points: Drop the Kombi-Scorchas. They're a waste of time with having one shot/game unless you're going up against Nids, IG, or other Orks.

2. Meks with the Lootas: Drop em. Run full out 10 Lootas with Dakkaguns. You go from a possible 8-24 shots/turn to a possible 10-30 shots/turn. They have better range than the KMB.

3: Deffkoptas: Trade out TL Rokkits for TL Big Shootas as the situation warrants. If you're tank hunting with them, take the Rokkits, otherwise go for the TL Big Shootas to mow infantry down.

4: Burna Boyz: Good if you're running them in a Battlewagon. Consider buying one.

5: Tankbustas: Eh... I could take 'em or leave 'em to be honest. I'd spend the points on more lootas personally.


1. My reasoning behind the Kombi-Skorchas is that they cost less than a boy, are heavy flamer shots therefore good at clearing cultists / gaunts / d/eldar infantry / whatever. After all I don't want the Warboss to fight forever with some gaunts if there's an option that in the right situation basically kills them. Yeah it's not amazing but the models have them already and it's where the spare points went that couldn't buy anything else.

2. Yeah it's just that the lootas came with meks, though I like that the kustom blastas have AP2. The range difference makes them a bad fit in lootas though.

3. Well I imagine they're one of the better tank hunter units in the book since they can flank. They have the bigbomm for some random mob clearing. Personally I'd like to have them with Kustom Blastas as they're cheaper than rokkits and AP2, but I haven't yet figured out how to convert them.

4. How about a Looted Vehicle, those cost next to nothing and have av 11?

5. Well it's pretty clear to me that the best S8 shots in the ork army are Kannons with the new artillery rules and their ability to also fire blasts, it's just that I happen to have those rokkit/tank-bomb orks and haven't found any good looking gun models for Kannons (the official minis are really dated).

Orkimedezz wrote:No meks unless they are kff or sags don't give any to lootas/burnas
Maybe get more burnas and slap em in a trunk
No kombis cus they are silly
And tankbustas are better to ditch em and grab more lootas
And maybe make the warbikes a full squad of 10


Is there really any advantage to 10 warbikers instead of 2x5 if the fast attack slot isn't an issue? Seems to me, 10 warbikers take 3 wounds, all run, or 2x5 warbikers take 3 wounds, 5 remain.

Zagman wrote:Easy way to paint Orks...


Well thanks but painting them is going well enough already


I really like the new vehicle models too, especially the new trukks.

Dakkamite wrote:Oi, yoo gits iz muckin about!

~Keep the Kombi Skorchas. Do not underestimate the power of a S5 AP4 template. Even though it only fires once, good god it'll earn its measly points cost back so easily.

~Warbosses are generally only good with MEGA ARMOUR or a BIKE, the standard one isn't going to be all that great I reckon

~Don't put meks on your Lootas, only attach to burnas and then only if they are in a vehicle (which they always should be because they are expensive and fragile)

~Tankbustas are trash. Cool trash, but trash

~Nobs are generally crap on boyz mobs now because of the challenge rules. I wouldn't bother, especially only with a big choppa


To me it seems like Mega-armour is always the best option for a Warboss, it has all he needs really. Furthermore I much prefer meganobz over nobz but I don't like the models at all and they're pricey too. Maybe I don't need a second Warboss (I'd really prefer a Deff Dread with close combat weapons, all that thing would do is lurk and wait for somebody to wander too close).

Say, have meks on burna boyz in a looted wagon, kick Tankbustas for Kannons and just remove boy squad nobs (I was thinking that the nobs don't have to do much else than bring some S7 attacks in assault, against tanks or something).

A possible list after some purhcases :

HQ

Warboss / Mega-Armour, Attack Squig, Kybork Body, Bosspole, Kombi-Skorcha = 135

ELITES

2x6 Lootas = 2x 90

12 Burnaboyz / 3 Meks, Kustom Blastas = 180

TROOPS

10 Nobz / 4x Power Klaw, 3x Big Choppa, Painboy, Waagh Banner, Heavy Armour = 410
* Trukk = 35

2x 30 Shoota Boyz / 3 Big Shootas = 2x 195

FAST ATTACK

2x 5 Warbikes = 2x 125

3 Deffkoptas / Twin-Linked Rokkits, Bigbomm = 150

HEAVY SUPPORT

Looted Wagon / Skorcha, 2x Big Shoota = 60

3 Kannons = 60

TOTAL : 1850

How about this? Thanks for the input!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5929637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5929637.page GMT 1850pts Orks, first 6th ed army
Kannons are your friend. Those grots are good at shooty!

You REALLY want to drop the burna boyz in favor of more lootas. Yes, the KMB is alluring with it's AP2, but they're more than likely going to die before you get a chance to utilize it.


Remember thy golden rule as handed down by Mork and Gork: Boyz over Toyz. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5930786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/544941/5930786.page GMT