I'm currently playing through an escalation league with IG right now, and, first off, I know that the early games (sub 1000 pts) don't allow fliers. I don't know the rules for your league, but that seems like it's pretty standard in my experience.

Waaaghpower wrote:
Vets aren't particularly good, in my experience, and while I'm unsure what guns a Chimera has I am fairly sure they don't have much firepower.
You also have 0 anti aircraft fire and only 3 guns with a range of more than 24".
I'd recommend dropping the more expensive Vet squad in exchange for a Vendetta and a cheap infantry squad. It's not exactly the most friendly move, but it gives you more anti tank, some anti air, and you aren't missing out on number of vehicles.

 CaptObvious wrote:

Waaaghpower wrote:
Vets aren't particularly good, in my experience, and while I'm unsure what guns a Chimera has I am fairly sure they don't have much firepower.
You also have 0 anti aircraft fire and only 3 guns with a range of more than 24".
I'd recommend dropping the more expensive Vet squad in exchange for a Vendetta and a cheap infantry squad. It's not exactly the most friendly move, but it gives you more anti tank, some anti air, and you aren't missing out on number of vehicles.

I disagree with this. My chimeras with veterans work amazingly well, I had to learn how they worked though. For a long time I was losing chimeras, and the veterans inside would also perish. The answer is to leave the at the back, and kit them out, as you have, with 3x plasma, or 3x melta, plus a heavy weapon.

Your original list was the way to go! You just can't move up. You have to be very patient and let the enemy come to you. Shoot from the chimera, even the heavy weapons. At high points values, the thing to do is put Russ tanks and artillery in the back behind chimeras, that way you can get more firepower to the enemy, without having to actually go there. There's no denying that Guardsmen are fragile, they aren't meant to run in guns blazing. They do best at the back, supporting their ridiculous tanks and artillery.

That said, you can make some tweaks. Carapace armor is probably a waste at 30 pts. Drop that, and get them armed.

The codex states that the CCS cannot give orders to embarked troops, that's very clearly worded. However, they can bring a vox for 5pts, and give orders to themselves and reroll for them. That means, you're BS4 command squad could have a twin linked lascannon on nearly every turn. Pretty amazing tank sniper for only 50 pts, plus 5 for the vox, and 20 for the LC. Take 2 CCS with this gear, drive around and snipe tanks all day.

But be careful, because as always, if the enemy wants them dead, they will die. Guard are fragile.

Have fun!

 CaptObvious wrote:
The codex states that the CCS cannot give orders to embarked troops, that's very clearly worded. However, they can bring a vox for 5pts, and give orders to themselves and reroll for them.

 tankboy145 wrote:
Well If the squads have Heavy weapons I wouldnt recommend driving around, yes they are twinlinked but at bs1 there going to miss even more and at a low point scale the last thing you want is to allow your opponent to get ontop of you.

So you drive when you need to drive, and you sit when you need to sit. If they're armed with 3 special weapons, they can always go 6" and shoot those, or just haul ass and shoot nothing. That's pretty much how a chimera works, right?

CCS - lascannon - 70 pts

Troops

PCS
Troop
Troop - autocannon
140pts


PCS
Troop
Troop - autocannon
140pts

Heavy

LRBTl

GrayOwl wrote:
The next question is looking to the future of this league what direction could I take the base list for the 750 pts level? Since I can't take fliers that rules out vendettas but there are a lot of other options out there.