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				<description><![CDATA[ Opinions on this list for 1850 points please <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Ethereal (50)<br /> Ethereal (50)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> Elites: <br /> <br /> 3x XV8 crisis suits<br />   - plasma rifle<br />   - fusion blaster<br />   - target lock (1 with VRT instead)<br /> <br /> XV104 riptide<br />   - Ion Accelerator<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> fusion blaster<br />   - Early Warning Override<br />   -Velocity tracker<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br />   <br /> 8x Pathfinders<br />   -grav-inhibitor drone<br /> <br /> 8x Pathfinders<br />   -grav-inhibitor drone<br /> <br /> Heavy support:<br /> <br /> Skyray<br /> <br /> Sniper Drone Team<br />   -3 controllers<br /> <br /> 3x XV88 broadsides<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> rail rifle   <br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMS</span><br />   - target lock (1 w/ velocity tracker)<br /> <br /> Plan is to bubble the fire warriors around the ethereals and have one use zephyr and the other use invocation of fire to sprint up and shoot, use markers to laze targets for them giving them a higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> while they run and essentially make the whole lot assault 2 @ 30" with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> around 5. Once I get to where I want to be ill use the same tactic to with draw and shoot. The broadsides will be for anti-transport and flyer with the skyray to assist with its markers and for the riptide to pound anything that gets in it's line if sight.  <br /> <br /> The crisis suits are going to deepstrike and run harassment on soft targets in their end zone or lend additional support where needed<br /> <br /> The sniper drone team will be for eliminating assaulting units before they get close to my fire warriors and taking out targets of opportunity. I want to move them up with the warriors and ethereals till I get to a spot with decent line of site<br /> <br /> Hoping between the pathfinders, skyray, and sniper drones ill have plenty of markerlights to spread around between all the units in range. I usually try to leave a mark or 2 on units that I think will be able to assault me to give me that extra bit of oomph with overwatch<br /> <br /> I made this list in my head on the way to work this morning so if I'm off on some if the rules I apologize I'm advance<br /> <br /> I'm curious how you feel this type of list would work<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Love all those firewarriors  apart from that don't take rail guns on broadsides <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(657);'>HYMP</span> are way better ,i would also take at least one hammerhead also don't bother taking sky fire on the riptide you've got the skyray other than that I really want to try out the huge firewarriors squads and ethereals now xD<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh yeah get some fortifications too]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I thought about fortifications but was looking at playing it more as a run and gun army (I'm ok with 2 shots at 30" instead of 3 shots at 15"). <br /> <br /> Would you just drop the broadsides? Or sniper drones?  I like the idea of the sniper drones and in theory they would be great against a vast majority of assault troops (I haven't used them yet and they supply some markerlights). <br /> <br /> What would you put on the riptide instead of the sky fire/interceptor combo?  It all seems very bland or expensive when put on a riptide<br /> <br /> Would you use the railhead or ion head?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545012/5927813.page"><b>Brutal Viking wrote:</b></a><br/>Opinions on this list for 1850 points please <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Ethereal (50)<br /> Ethereal (50)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> 12x fire warrior w/pulse rifles<br /> <br /> Elites: <br /> <br /> 3x XV8 crisis suits<br />   - plasma rifle<br />   - fusion blaster<br />   - target lock (1 with VRT instead)<br /> <br /> XV104 riptide<br />   - Ion Accelerator<br />   - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> fusion blaster<br />   - Early Warning Override<br />   -Velocity tracker<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br />   <br /> 8x Pathfinders<br />   -grav-inhibitor drone<br /> <br /> 8x Pathfinders<br />   -grav-inhibitor drone<br /> <br /> Heavy support:<br /> <br /> Skyray<br /> <br /> Sniper Drone Team<br />   -3 controllers<br /> <br /> 3x XV88 broadsides<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> rail rifle   <br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(534);'>TW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMS</span><br />   - target lock (1 w/ velocity tracker)<br /> <br /> Plan is to bubble the fire warriors around the ethereals and have one use zephyr and the other use invocation of fire to sprint up and shoot, use markers to laze targets for them giving them a higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> while they run and essentially make the whole lot assault 2 @ 30" with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> around 5. Once I get to where I want to be ill use the same tactic to with draw and shoot. The broadsides will be for anti-transport and flyer with the skyray to assist with its markers and for the riptide to pound anything that gets in it's line if sight.  <br /> <br /> The crisis suits are going to deepstrike and run harassment on soft targets in their end zone or lend additional support where needed<br /> <br /> The sniper drone team will be for eliminating assaulting units before they get close to my fire warriors and taking out targets of opportunity. I want to move them up with the warriors and ethereals till I get to a spot with decent line of site<br /> <br /> Hoping between the pathfinders, skyray, and sniper drones ill have plenty of markerlights to spread around between all the units in range. I usually try to leave a mark or 2 on units that I think will be able to assault me to give me that extra bit of oomph with overwatch<br /> <br /> I made this list in my head on the way to work this morning so if I'm off on some if the rules I apologize I'm advance<br /> <br /> I'm curious how you feel this type of list would work<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This...is a weird list. So you want to foot slog the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> around using the Ethereals? They'll get eaten up (4+ armor), and unless you put the Ethereals in a squad, they'll be exposed to enemy fire. Remember, one ethereal is worth two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span> on its own. They <b><i>will</i></b> be a target. If i kill both your ethereals (one of them is the warlord), i'll get  4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span> right there, and with pie plates and precision shooting by snipers etc, it won't be hard. :|<br /> <br /> "make the whole lot assault 2 @ 30"<br /> <br /> I don't know what this means. <br /> <br /> "The crisis suits are going to deepstrike and run harassment on soft targets"<br /> <br /> The way they are kitted out makes them for attacking "hard targets" like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> and armor. <br /> <br /> A sniper drone team with 3 sniper drones is not going to "stop assault" from getting to you. Do you have to move sniper teams to get a shot? 48in is pretty far ha. Although it should get a bonus from the ethereal as it is a pulse weapon.<br /> <br /> I love marker lights, but this list probably has too much. There's a point when having too much marker light support effects your dakka. You don't want to be, and really shouldn't be, leaving a mark or 2 on units that might assault you next turn. Why not just use those markers and if you have that many marker lights left over, you have too much marker light support.<br /> <br /> This list will be eaten by template armies, and most armies have access to that. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> It seems like you are trying to do this:<br /> <br /> <u><b>British Firing Line</b></u> If you've seen The Patriot, you'll know what this means. Basically, just push as many warriors out on the field with two pulse rifles Tau up in the front and put all of the carbines in the back. Camp like a bitch in terrain but make sure there is a bit of open ground. Exploit the Supporting Fire special rule ruthlessly.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I did the British gun line and it was fun I was just after opinions on trying something different for giggles, you make a few very good points about the crisis suits and the victory points from the ethereals. They would of course be in a unit. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 01:37:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would love to hear how this did. I have also wanted to try this list out with a few things different but same firewarrior base with two ethereals. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, an Ethereal's Storm of Fire ability only works at half range, so no 30" assault 2 weapons for the fire warriors.  Even if you roll a 6 for the run, you are only going to get extra shots at 27" from their starting point, and It would be an "assault 3" then.   Therefore, 2 ethereals might not be necessary, run without fleet is unreliable and a kitted up commander can give your riptide or xv8's a little utility.]]></description>
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