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				<title>1500 CSM - Death Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I play casually with a friend.  Therefore I like to play fluffy.  I'm tryign to learn about what makes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> good right now, they seem very point hungry and 6th Edition seems kinda shooty so I am not sure what I need to do.  Anyways this is my current list.  <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>	<br /> Typhus	230<br /> TROOPS	<br /> 7 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma Gun (Rhino) Dirge Caster	198<br /> 7 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma Gun (Rhino) Dirge Caster	198<br /> 7 Plague Marines, 2 Melta Guns, Power Fist (Rhino) Dirge Caster	213<br /> 3 Chaos Rhino w/Dirge Casters	120<br /> Elite	<br /> 6 Chaos Terminators Mark of Nurgle, Heavy Flamer	226<br /> HEAVY	<br /> Defiler	195<br /> Predator, 2 Lascannons (Dozer)	120<br /> <br /> 1500<br /> <br /> Typhus Deep Strikes with the Terminators.  Pretty sure keeping 456 points off the board isn't the best idea, but it's the best idea I have.  I will eventually work on a super zombie squad for Typhus, but for now its just him and a bunch of plague marines.  I would love <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>ot</span> hear any thoughts on good <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>.Nurgle Strategies.<br /> <br /> - Son of Saim Hann   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:25:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sonofsaimhann]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 CSM - Death Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ At 1500 points Typhus might be a litte too pricey. I have found a lord with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> works to get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s and leaves room to add more to your list. I would add Typhus and the zombies at the same time at 1750 or higher.<br /> <br /> Oblits with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> are awsome if you have some to use. Defilers don't do as much as they used to. I would trade it out for Oblits.<br /> <br /> I know the Heldrake is liked and disliked but they ruin almost everything they come in contact with.<br /> <br /> Here is my 1500 that does pretty good. <br /> <br /> Lord <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>/ BG/ GoB&lt;----Warlord (Just get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s)<br /> D. Prince <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>/BM/Wings/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(333);'>PA</span>/GoB<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s x7 Flamer/ Melta  Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> in a Rhino w/EA<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s x7 Flamer/ Melta  Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> in a Rhino w/EA<br /> <br /> Heldrake x2<br /> <br /> Oblits x3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> Oblits use long range to stop enemy transports or dangerous shooty stuff. Plasmacannons work wonders on those deep striking termies. Also change up weapons for horde armies.<br /> <br /> Hide Rhinos until you can move them out to get objectives after at least one Drake is on the table. If both are on the table will work best. V.Strike and flame everything.<br /> <br /> Use terrain for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> to get him into position. With <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> he will get +2 to his cover save. Ruins and any terrain will help get him across the board. Make sure he is in terrain. The Black Mace is a Deamon Weapon. Smash against characters and regular attacks against squads at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 for both. When you assault with him, make a challenge and you will most likely win. Then if the squad doesnt brake, you can kill most if not all in your opponents turn leaving him free in your turn. Rinse and repeat from unit to unit.<br /> <br /> The down side of this list is only two scoring units unless you get the missions to make fast <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>ot</span> heavies scoring. But the amount of firepower to take out those two units will draw attention away from the more dangerous units.<br /> <br /> Hope this helps and good luck.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:25:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gundor]]></author>
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				<title>1500 CSM - Death Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Taking Typhus is useless unless you are going to take zombies as well. He is way too expensive to lose out on that. <br /> <br /> The deep striking termies are more often than not going to be cut down before they have a chance to do much. Termicide would be a lot more effective and would leave a lot more points for some zombies  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> .<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545112/5929922.page"><b>Gundor wrote:</b></a><br/>Lord <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>/ BG/ GoB&lt;----Warlord (Just get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Your Lord does not have to be the Warlord in order to make <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> troops.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:58:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAVii3]]></author>
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				<title>1500 CSM - Death Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5ba2b5736e5d150581d30effa75d0d98.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545112/5929989.page"><b>DAVii3 wrote:</b></a><br/>Taking Typhus is useless unless you are going to take zombies as well. He is way too expensive to lose out on that. <br /> <br /> The deep striking termies are more often than not going to be cut down before they have a chance to do much. Termicide would be a lot more effective and would leave a lot more points for some zombies  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> .<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545112/5929922.page"><b>Gundor wrote:</b></a><br/>Lord <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>/ BG/ GoB&lt;----Warlord (Just get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span>'s)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Your Lord does not have to be the Warlord in order to make <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> troops.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The Lord has to have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> to take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> as troops. Just make him the Warlord because the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> will be out killing stuff. And your enemy will think that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> is the Warlord.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:05:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gundor]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ya I can probably swap out Typhus and the Terminators pretty easily.  I don't own any Helldrakes (trying to justify them in the Nurgle fluff) but I do have an Oblit.  <br /> <br /> I don't have the Demon Codex yet, are plaguebearers or Nurgle any good?  Might try to go with allies?<br /> <br /> I'll see what I can do for a Chaos Lord.  <br /> <br /> Good advice though.  I'm definitely not happy with the lack of versatility this list has, so trying to work around it.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Aug 2013 18:42:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sonofsaimhann]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah I thought you were implying that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> lord had to be the warlord in order to make <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> troops. Personally I'd roll on personal for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> just in hope to get tenacity on him, makes games so much easier to win.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:33:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAVii3]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The lord has to be the warlord over the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>dp</span> because his leadership is higher]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:58:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dalymiddleboro]]></author>
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