http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k and grabbed the DV starter. I like both armies and just wanted to know in the current state who was more competitive. From what I have been reading both armies are not that great in the over all picture, was this true? And if so who might be a better choice? Its not that I'm looking for the best WAAC army or need to be the best. I just don't want to feel useless like I did playing daemons in a world full of Grey Knights. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936427.page GMT CTRL-F in the "all lists"-file from ETC and it gave:
Chaos Space Marine => 48 results
Dark Angel => 18 results

But I think that's mostly because those Chaos-lists all run 3 Helldrakes.
AP3, ignoring cover, and and Torrent/Soulblaze is quite strong.

Furthermore I would advice against taking the "more competitive army" when you are getting back into 40k.
The next C:SM might change the entire meta and those Helldrakes could become useless and suddenly the DA would be better.
Would you pick up the next best army when that happens?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936445.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936445.page GMT HS choice, like Maulerfiends, and you get a potent army to field.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936447.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936449.page GMT
Dark angels run into some trouble if you try to do a pure deathwing army, but ravenwing armies are quite potent. If you like bikes, DA will not disappoint.

CSM on the other hand tend to be a bit better off than DA. For a competitive list though I hope you don't mind using plaguemarines, helldrakes, and nurgle obliterators.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936552.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936552.page GMT DA enless CSM spam helldrakes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936815.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5936815.page GMT CSM is better.

Course you'll be locked into Plague Marine/Helldrake spam, but still it's okay. It didn't win any tournaments though. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5937097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545487/5937097.page GMT