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				<description><![CDATA[ 100% legal and kinda trolly(kinda is a understatement)<br /> I know its not the best infact <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> would laugh at me as they table me proably turn 3.<br /> Anyway Dragio makes everything he can scoring,turn 1 Dreads jump foward shoot and wait, turn 2 deathwing come in dreads again shoot(move if need be) then assault turn 3 mass assault everything possibble<br /> Dragio mans the gun line(kind of a waste of a 275 point model but at least he serves his purpose...<br /> C&C welcome i want to know if this is anything but funny but even possible to being competitive <br /> The only models i would need is dragio and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> so it kinda works $ wise.<br /> <br /> <br /> Dragio 275<br /> <br /> Paladain 55<br /> Paladain 55<br /> <br /> Dreadknight 245<br /> heavy psycannon<br /> Dreadknight 245<br /> heavy psycannon<br /> Dreadknight 245<br /> heavy psycannon<br /> <br /> Terminator Libby 125<br /> Telepathy <br /> Mace of redemption<br /> <br /> Deathwing knights(9) 429<br /> Relic of the unforgiven<br /> <br /> Scouts 75<br /> Missle launcher<br /> <br /> Aegis Defence Line 100<br /> Quad Gun<br /> <br /> 1849]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hate to burst your bubble, but belial only makes terminators troops in a primary detachment, so you would have to bring some scouts or something to fill that gap. <br /> <br /> Sorry :( I hate it when rules get in the way of fun, but I don't think your opponent would appreciate and illegal list]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Doesn't burst my bubble as bad but here we see changed the OG post to make it legal]]></description>
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				<title>Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How have you changed it?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:41:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ddb8a9fc4e81ab9b04fad210290e9202.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545658/5938725.page"><b>SoloFalcon1138 wrote:</b></a><br/>How have you changed it?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Like so sorry had to run downstairs and grab my codex :/<br /> Only thing that comes to mind, i could change the scouts to camo cloaks and give the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> a combat shield which I dont think I should do.<br /> <br /> Also can't decide on telepathy or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(418);'>TK</span>. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:47:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Anything at all?<br /> If i really wanted to i could cange the DWK to RBK and add a pfg to the libby or level 2]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:12:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why have the Dreadknights got the worst weapon? In fact why don't they have all the equipment they need?<br /> <br /> Why the big unit of Deathwing Knights? <br /> <br /> What is your plan against Vehicles?<br /> <br /> Just in general why?<br /> <br /> You can't win an objective game with that list without tabling and your army is hardly set up to do that. I don't get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> contingent at all I just don't understand what they are doing that Paladins couldn't. l just don't understand what you think thus list can do?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:38:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/65afb78ba94982239ee431d965e2013a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545658/5941210.page"><b>FlingitNow wrote:</b></a><br/>Why have the Dreadknights got the worst weapon? In fact why don't they have all the equipment they need?<br /> <br /> Why the big unit of Deathwing Knights? <br /> <br /> What is your plan against Vehicles?<br /> <br /> Just in general why?<br /> <br /> You can't win an objective game with that list without tabling and your army is hardly set up to do that. I don't get the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> contingent at all I just don't understand what they are doing that Paladins couldn't. l just don't understand what you think thus list can do?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 3-6 scoring units i could win in a scoring mission, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>dw</span> contigent is to play clean up with what the dreads couldnt do.paladins are over costed and under functioned as a unit, this list is just a fast paced list that could mess up a gun line army in no time.<br /> <br /> Why? Because its funny<br /> tanks? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 4 rending templates a quad gun and a bunch of high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> melee attacks.<br /> Deathwing knights because originally i had belial but he doesnt make termies troops so i went with knights, i could still change them to RBK and make it a faster army and if i squeeze the points right i could add a unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> in there]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:56:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<title>Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The Heavy Psycannon is a terrible weapon lacks the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> punch of the normal version. Blasts aren't great against vehicles. Relying on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> is not a great idea.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> are not that much cheaper than Paladins and Paladins provide ranged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> are troops and utilise that 275 point Character you're using...<br /> <br /> Why no Sword on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span>? Its basically mandatory.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:19:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/65afb78ba94982239ee431d965e2013a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545658/5941355.page"><b>FlingitNow wrote:</b></a><br/>The Heavy Psycannon is a terrible weapon lacks the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> punch of the normal version. Blasts aren't great against vehicles. Relying on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> is not a great idea.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> are not that much cheaper than Paladins and Paladins provide ranged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> are troops and utilise that 275 point Character you're using...<br /> <br /> Why no Sword on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span>? Its basically mandatory.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not really the sword lets you reroll but takes place of the other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(571);'>DCCW</span>(which still gets smash), which in return takes away 1 attack <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> it isnt worth the 25. i was really thinking of changing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> over to RBK it would add more shooting and even some mobility.<br /> I hade a list with 20 marines and a dakka banner but i think it would just get shot down to easy.<br /> Is 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKS</span> overkill or just right? I was thinking of dropping one to add some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>DEVS</span> and more long range punch just not sure yet what to add. The 1 man paladin squads would be pushed into reserve as much as possible using dragios rull so i think they are fine to score. The entire point of this list is to overwhelm the enemy before they can do anthing to take out all 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKS</span> and whatever else i decide to back them up with.<br /> <br /> Would the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> be worth its points if i only used it as allies to a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> force?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:39:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My farsight shadowsun list will wreak your pally death star.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:47:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheCadreofFi'rios]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/999f1894159edc8d902b0df13f83f62b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545658/5941488.page"><b>TheCadreofFi'rios wrote:</b></a><br/>My farsight shadowsun list will wreak your pally death star.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The pallys arent even the deathstar and ya would wreck it? This list is a joke lost made to troll people i will proabably change it up some to make it more viable, and ya your farsight shadowsun list who cares its a game made of plastic/finecast army men. Congrats at being the internet tough guy.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:03:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Pretty troll, but still viable?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey your the one who suggested it was a troll list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:20:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheCadreofFi'rios]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Not really the sword lets you reroll but takes place of the other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(571);'>DCCW</span>(which still gets smash), which in return takes away 1 attack <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> it isnt worth the 25. i was really thinking of changing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> over to RBK it would add more shooting and even some mobility</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Check the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FaQ</span> with the sword you are still S10 and still have 4 attacks base (5 on the charge), you just get to reroll everything. That is easily worth 25 points.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Is 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKS</span> overkill or just right? I was thinking of dropping one to add some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>DEVS</span> and more long range punch just not sure yet what to add. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 3 is just right, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> are poor and don't fit this list.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>The 1 man paladin squads would be pushed into reserve as much as possible using dragios rull so i think they are fine to score. The entire point of this list is to overwhelm the enemy before they can do anthing to take out all 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKS</span> and whatever else i decide to back them up with. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I get all that but I don't get why you've got Draigo over a vastly cheaper <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(524);'>GM</span> if you're not using him in combat and not taking massed Paladins to support the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span>? Pallies work great with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span> as your opponent wants to shoot S8 AP2 stuff at them which is also what he needs against the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DKs</span>... Thus you make his tsrgettimg decisions difficult. DWKs on the other hand with a 3++ and 1W need small arms fire to be dealt with and therefore you make your opponents firing decisions easy...<br /> ]]></description>
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