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				<title>1000 Pt. CSM List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hello everybody, I'm assembling my first tabletop army and I wanted to know what you guys think. I have done a lot of research and this is what I have come up with. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Daemon Prince w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, power armor, wings<br /> Chaos Lord w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Jump pack and twin lightning claws<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: <br /> x1 Obliterator w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> <br /> x5 Havocs w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, 4 flamers, asp with a plasma pistol, Rhino transport w/ combiflamer and missile launcher <br /> <br /> Fast Attack: <br /> x5 Raptors w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, 2 meltaguns and an asp with powersword <br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> x5 Plague Marines w/ 2 plasmaguns, a combiplas<br /> x5 Plague Marines w/ 2 plasmaguns, a combiplas<br /> <br /> I am very new at this so please give me advice, tactics and ideas! I was considering giving the havocs all plasma instead but I was'nt quit sure; I imagined that they would ride around in the rhino setting things on fire and using wall of death.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1000 Pt. CSM List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The first thing that jumps out at me is that you're probably spending too big a proportion of points on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s.  I would probably stick with just 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> at 1000pts or at least a combination of two cheaper ones.  <br /> <br /> Also the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> really needs either an upgraded weapon or psychic abilities for it to shine.  The Black Mace is a popular choice as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> hits with it at AP2, but this is just adding more points to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> build.  There are also more weapons around now that have the chance of Instant Deathing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> (at least in my meta); if he dies quickly that's a quarter of your points gone straight away.  To be honest I wouldn't take it in a game less than 1500pts although they can be great fun if things go well.<br /> <br /> The points that you save on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> selections can be used to get some more bodies in your other units; even having a unit of 7 compared to a unit of 5 can make a big difference in survivability.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:39:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tonberry7]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000 Pt. CSM List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/514cdffd137dbb3330a69cbb108f0baf.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545967/5944568.page"><b>Tonberry7 wrote:</b></a><br/>The first thing that jumps out at me is that you're probably spending too big a proportion of points on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s.  I would probably stick with just 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> at 1000pts or at least a combination of two cheaper ones.  <br /> <br /> Also the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> really needs either an upgraded weapon or psychic abilities for it to shine.  The Black Mace is a popular choice as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> hits with it at AP2, but this is just adding more points to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> build.  There are also more weapons around now that have the chance of Instant Deathing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> (at least in my meta); if he dies quickly that's a quarter of your points gone straight away.  To be honest I wouldn't take it in a game less than 1500pts although they can be great fun if things go well.<br /> <br /> The points that you save on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> selections can be used to get some more bodies in your other units; even having a unit of 7 compared to a unit of 5 can make a big difference in survivability.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Thanks for the advice! I've got plenty of models that I can use for a Chaos lord. Perhaps I could just take a Lord with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> in termi armor with the black mace. Also, I have tons of plasma gun bitz and I could make the havocs an all plasma squad, is this unwise?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:01:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tberry1693]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ plasma squads are HIGHLY dangerous and very competative no other army feilds them, they deal with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(652);'>TEQ</span> and most monsterous creatures well <br /> <br /> as for a nurgle lord i reccomend a bike to make him T6 and very mobile, a burning brand on this guy alows him to take out small units of infantry on his own whilst remaining under 200 points. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> invest in a helldrake they are the best fast attack we have and it can deal with flyers in a pinch, but most importantly they will kill infantry and thats important given your low model count. many people do not like them but your list runs the risk of being swamped easily so adding one is a wise move.<br /> <br /> if you use a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> lord ,black mace maybe ok  but with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> being the prevailent army <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> use standard weapons, dont use twin claws thats so last codex, in this dex you can take a fist with your claw, this keeps +1 attack as both are specalist weapons and lets you switch weapons when you need to, alowing the lord to kill marines and fast units with the claw and break termintors and tanks with his fist, he can take any opponent in a challenge as he always has the weapon for the job]]></description>
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