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				<description><![CDATA[ Every spiritseer rolls runes of battle once and telepathy one. Psychic shriek for EVERYONE is just fun. 2 seers per unit of wraithblades. 1 seer will end up with voice of twilight at least. Hoping for rolls of 1 to get renewer to add even more wounds back to the lords and knight. If things come bareling at you you can move &gt; Run &gt; Psychic shriek and just take down entire squads. If they stay stationary everything in the list gets battle focus to move forwards. Wave serpents are literally empty tanks And the wraith knight and lords just go in the front with wave serpents to the side of t to make a walking gun line. Farseer rolls standard buff monkey and a unit of warp spiders to go enemy vehicle hunting or provide <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> if guided. I think there is real potential here to be a hillarious list to play altough I can see several downsides. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> heavy armies will not make me very happy and any objective missions i just need to kill everything to win. Altough the wraithguard units are pretty sturdy with all around invulns and toughness 6.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Shadow Council      - 310<br />    - 4 Spirit Seers<br />    - Wraithforge stone<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Farseer             - 105<br />    - Singing Spear <br /> <br /> TR - 5 Wraithblades      - 160<br />    - Axe & Shield<br /> <br /> TR - 5 Wraithblades      - 160<br />    - Axe & Shield<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span> - Wave Serpent        - 145<br />    - Holo Fields<br />    - Shuriken Cannon<br />    - Scatter Laser <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span> - Wave Serpent        - 145<br />    - Holo Fields<br />    - Shuriken Cannon<br />    - Scatter Laser <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> - 10 Warpspiders      - 190<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> - Wraithlord          - 165<br />    - Bright Lance<br />    - Bright Lance<br />    - Ghost Glaive<br />    - Dual Flamer<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> - Wraithlord          - 165<br />    - Starcannon<br />    - Starcannon<br />    - Ghost Glaive<br />    - Dual Flamer<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> - Wraithknight        - 300 <br />    - Suncannon & Shield<br />    - Scatter Laser]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ NickOnwezen]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Iyanden - Competitive~ maybe</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So 10 models walking across the open ground is your only plan for objectives?<br /> <br /> Also with the Axes you get 1 attack. What do you expect to beat in combat with them? Why AP2 you certainly don't want to be fighting terminators.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:56:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am not taking them to actually fight. I am taking them because they have  invunerable saves and toughness 6 that they share with the spirirt seers joining them. They are wounds for the psykers that are able to do far more damage. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(2);'>3d6</span> versus leadership resulting in wounds that don't allow cover or armor saves when the average roll on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(2);'>3d6</span> is 11. My plan for objectives is to use that to knock things off them. Generally the more models the less leadership the more terrifying multiple psychic shrieks become. In addition to wave serpent, warp spider and wraithknight volume of fire.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Aug 2013 00:02:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ NickOnwezen]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I disagree with running your serpents empty, as they give your wraithblades mobilty. The things are slower than christmas, and even with a 3+4++ and T6 they will go down. Considering how few models you have on the table, and how little of a threat your wraithblades actually are, they can be ignored and then focused down when the time is right. Putting them in the serpents eliminates all of that. Footslogging 5 wraithblades is just a slow way to die. In melee, your 1 attack at S7 is cute...but at I1...a unit of guardsmen can beat you considering you have to march there, and then dig through overwatch and a swarm of attacks.<br /> <br /> I would run them as wraithguard and use their guns, and either use conceal or just rely on their natural ability to survive. If they are not getting shot but get the first shot this is fine. Consider running 1 unit of 6 scytheguard, and then 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> with 2 spiritseers(with the stone too!)<br /> <br /> The farseer is not all that critical, if you really want one throw em on a bike with spiders. Since you can't access the mantle, might as well take the special spear from Iyanden as well with a bike. I would drop em though.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> looks okay. Consider scatter/star for your 2nd lord. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:11:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dr. Serling]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can take the Mantle and Iyanden gear. Just not on the same model. Otherwise I agree with pretty much all of Dr Sterlings points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:08:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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