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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello, Dakka! <br /> I am soon to be playing a potentially staggering amount of Apocalypse games, as my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> is starting a planetstrike campaign. Unfortunately, I don't have any super heavies or gargantuan things, but I will be allowed to proxy anything that is *about* the same size as what I'm fielding. So that being said, I would like suggestions on what to take for these games. They will either be 4000 (most common) or 6000 (rarely). I have a ton of boys, bikes, and vehicles. I can proxy MANS if that's a good idea, but I only have four as is. I have never played <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> before, so I'm totally new to the game play, though I have been studying the rules a lot. I also have legit rules for all the units, mobs, vehicles and whatnots, so feel free to reference anything that you know about. If I don't know what you're talking about, I'll just question it in a reply. <br /> Any help is greatly appreciated! WAAAAAGH!! <img src="/s/i/a/80f14e5ffd51cd1bc51199153de3eacf.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/80f14e5ffd51cd1bc51199153de3eacf.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:33:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spydermonkey1351]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Take a fleet of Battlewagons and pack them full of MegaNobz and boyz.<br /> <br /> Cram the power of a crapload of Ork infantry into the easy mobility of a bunch of transports. It's worth it if for no other reason than because it means you don't have to move 4000pts of Orks one by one every turn.<br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure theres a battlewagon formation, something to do with making a wall of deff rollas and getting bonus hits. Might make it vulnerable to enormous apocalypse templates though.<br /> <br /> If you really wanted to you could easily fit 4000pts into ten battlewagons with a bunch of Megabosses and forcefield Meks. If you do take MegaNobz though, I recommend you throw Grotsnik in there someplace and then give every last one of them cybork bodies.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is in fact a battlewagon formation. There is also a nobz formation. The two are easilly combined. The wagons get a 4+ cover and get to reroll deff rolla hits, and the nobs are fearless and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span>. Woot. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Aug 2013 04:09:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spydermonkey1351]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm assuming the Nob one goes for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span> too?<br /> <br /> Those formation bonuses are amazing]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Aug 2013 04:17:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dakkamite]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546214/5949334.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm assuming the Nob one goes for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span> too?<br /> <br /> Those formation bonuses are amazing</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The nob formation makes you take 5 warbosses (1 might be ghazzkul) the nob groups can be normal nobz, biker nobz or mega nobz.  with the bonuses added above AND a bombardment <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> All the ork formations are awesome, the burna bommer squadron formation itself is also sweet.<br /> <br /> As for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span>.. Get a stompa or two, allways have that big mek <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> avaible <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> it saves allot but the destroyer hits ignore cover so rush forward!<br /> <br /> As mentiond above, Battlewagon formation is sweet for either a 4+ cover save or reroll's on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> deffrolla hits.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>Manz</span> i put them into BW had a awesome combat with 9 meganobz + ghazzkul against 9 termies and marnus celgar once <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> Meganobz <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(264);'>ftw</span>!  <br /> <br /> The dreadmob is better with the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> book getting all those uppgrades once again is too sweet to resist. they can cause some mayhem.<br /> <br /> Greentide, Not a must but it's a good addition HAVE IN MIND they take time to deploy and you are given a certain time to deploy all your units, if one aint standing when the time's up they are out of the game and into reserve.<br /> <br /> It's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> and you want to cause mayhem, what's better than some firework?! TANKBUSTAS! get them into a battlewagon and fill that wagon aswell with rokkits! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:11:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, without stompas, I could take a BW formation with Nobz (MANS or green skins), and then throw up to 300 boys at them from strategic reserves. <br /> <br /> 5 BW/deff rolla/2 big shoota - 600<br /> 5 Nobz squads w/bosses -  1565 total<br /> <i>3 MANS - 5 ea - 600<br /> 2 green skin - 2PK, 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span>, 5 t/l shoota ea - 280<br /> 4 warbosses - Mega armour, squig, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 460<br /> Ghazzy (in all his glory) - 225</i><br /> <br /> Green tide w/boss - <br /> 10 boys squads - 20ea, nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> - 1550<br /> Warboss - Eavy armour, squig, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, shoota - 105<br /> <br /> Total... 3820 points! That adds up FAST. 180 points left. I don't even know if I have that many models... I'll have to find out. Maybe I could take fewer boys and throw a stompa in. Or take the Mad Dok and make 'em all cybork. What do you all think?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:00:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spydermonkey1351]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cybork the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span>. If they ever go up against Terminators its the difference between life and death.<br /> <br /> Also boarding plank those battlewagons, as I believe you can use your plank hits AND deffrolla in the same turn<br /> <br /> I hear good things about something called a Kill Tank, or a Kill Krusha. But otherwise Stompa it up. Ork Superheavies are mercifully easy to scratch build, possibly the most efficience ratio of effort - points you'll find in the game]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:57:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dakkamite]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The kill tanks are AWESOME (in theory. I've never actually fielded one). They will definitely be accompanying me later, once I get some models for them. <br /> <br /> I've never used boarding planks before, but I suppose that would be a good use of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> inside. Could be quite useful. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:02:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ stompas are awesome for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> nott only is it very killy on its own but fill it with some mega nobz have them jump out and wreak havok, the biggest thing about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> i find tho isnt necisarily having the most competative list (for me anyways) its having a huge fun game where crazy and unexpected things happen, one of my personal favorite units is the gargantuan squigoth, he wasnt 2 good in the last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> but im hoping he will be better in this one  (giving him both sets of lobas and filling him up with a squad of 15 lootas)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Aug 2013 03:56:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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