The Shrike wrote:


Lastly, many would contend that the Flying Circus isn't the best daemon list at all. These people would put forward a list with 3 units of 9 Screamers + Herald + FW. The Screamers are just insanely shooty, while being able to hold their own in assault. They're very mobile, being jetbikes, and one of the units will be grimoired, rendering a 2+ rerollable invul save. I haven't seen this in action personally but it has been making the tournament rounds on the West Coast mainly, to some success.

 greg0985 wrote:

 The Shrike wrote:


Lastly, many would contend that the Flying Circus isn't the best daemon list at all. These people would put forward a list with 3 units of 9 Screamers + Herald + FW. The Screamers are just insanely shooty, while being able to hold their own in assault. They're very mobile, being jetbikes, and one of the units will be grimoired, rendering a 2+ rerollable invul save. I haven't seen this in action personally but it has been making the tournament rounds on the West Coast mainly, to some success.

Quick question, how are screamers shooty? Are you referring to their slashing attack rule?

 lazarian wrote:
The choice for your flying circus comes down to the princes, you should take Fatey regardless

Ignoring Khorne sadly the remaining three are all very viable and rather strong.

-Tzeentch: Great synergy on turns where you Grimore. Easiest time with spells and the tzeentch lore isnt bad for shooting attacks. Also if you go this route it frees up the other HQ to take disk heralds to ride with the screamers and make massive PEW PEW noises.

-Nurgle: The Balesword is still murdering a bus full of Wraithknights and Riptides trying to get to school somewhere, a very potent out that solves a tons of problems in the meta. Shrouded + Biomancy is unfair against the unprepared. The weakness is that much melee is wasted against gun lines and Papa Nurgle tax is hard due to his slowness, though Deep Striking mitigates somethings. You can conversely take one as a HQ and Tzeentch Princes as Heavy though.

-Slaanesh: The 'best' one according to many online due to Iron Arm+ Lash of Dispair+Vector Strikes. This one can still be kept around easy with Biomancy+Grimore though you are stuck taking the slightly slower keeper of secrets. It is the least survivable but has the most toys to play with like fleet. The same Nurgle caveats apply (Keeper dont fly and your forced to either HQ a prince or take a keeper to spam the princes).

With that decided you also need another type of hammer, either dogs or screamers. Screamers can make a 'fluffy' mono Tzeentch list viable and will stay around forever when Grimored while dogs are hard to hide against since their beast status makes them very nimble for the charge (also being annoying/unkillable while Grimored as well).

For troops again if its not Khorne, it has a place. This one is a personal preference, I enjoy horrors since they are the most proactive of the lot the other two tend to just be straight babysitters due to melee only. With that said numerous Daemon lists fare very well with combinations or spamming of all three. The only common thread is take at the most 2-3 minimum units (11 horrors for the level 2) and have the Portaglyph plump out any deficiency.


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twinner wrote:
How do Flesh hounds get a 2+ re-roll invul save, Grimore gives them a 4+ invul no?

The Grimore gives them +2 to their invul, giving them a 3+ Warp Storm table or Forewarning will give them a 2+. Screamers who are under this effect also reroll 1's...making you the popular kid on the block.

twinner wrote:


So:

Bloodletters and Blood Crushers are no good?