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				<description><![CDATA[ Recently begun revisiting my orks, and am building towards this list. I would like to hear opinions on where the list falls short, just keep in mind there is an overall theme.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (310)<br /> warboss, bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>, attack squig, cybork body, kombi skorcha (155)<br /> <br /> warboss, bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>, attack squig, cybork body, kombi skorcha (155)<br /> <br /> Elites (450)<br /> 10 lootas (150)<br /> <br /> 10 lootas (150)<br /> <br /> 10 lootas (150)<br /> <br /> Troop (1139)<br /> 9 nobs, bikes, cybork, waagh banner, bosspole, painboy, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pks</span>. (550)<br /> <br /> 9 nobs, bikes, cybork, waagh banner, bosspole, painboy, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pks</span>. (550)<br /> <br /> Runtherd, 10 grots (39)<br /> <br /> <br /> Aegis, Quadgun (100)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:47:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think against a gun line list you'll be tabled by turn 2. <br /> <br /> You're going to be running up the field on foot, with only 22 models. There's nothing to soak up the fire. <br /> And you can forget about holding objectives, you don't have enough Troops to make it to the enemy, let alone defend anything. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:33:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2k orks: is this list competitive or casual?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Are those Nobs on Bikes as well?  If so, the list is nastier than first glance.  I wouldn't call it competitive though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:17:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zagman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Whoops, little bit of necessary information there haha, yes, they are on bikes. Thanks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:09:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546454/5954933.page"><b>ralphinator wrote:</b></a><br/>Whoops, little bit of necessary information there haha, yes, they are on bikes. Thanks.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'd call it more competitive than casual.  But, don't think its completely inappropriate for casual play so long as your opponent has any idea what they are doing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:30:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zagman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was brainstorming about maybe dropping a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> from each squad for a naked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> for lootas. Maybe even making the nobs squads of 9 to take a quad gun and a squad of grots to man it and hold an objective.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:56:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ralphinator]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k orks: is this list competitive or casual?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Better off finding the room for a Landing Pad instead, though a naked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> could work.  Don't be afraid of letting a Loota man a Quadgun, its not that bad.  Finding the poitns for some Objective holding Gretchin with a Quadgun could be cool.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:24:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zagman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546454/5955078.page"><b>ralphinator wrote:</b></a><br/>I was brainstorming about maybe dropping a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> from each squad for a naked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> for lootas. Maybe even making the nobs squads of 9 to take a quad gun and a squad of grots to man it and hold an objective.</div></blockquote><br /> that is not a bad Idea ...<br /> at 9 Nobz each you will most likey get across the feild to do damage..and 6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> is more than enough ..all eggs in one basket ..win lose or draw by turn 3 ..<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:28:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ morfydd]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah the nob bikers will definitely make it across the table.<br /> <br /> You will struggle against units in buildings depending on the type of terrain your opponent chooses. <br /> <br /> This is definitely an all or nothing list, haha. <br /> <br /> I like the idea of adding the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span>, quad gun and grots. gives you a small group to hold a backfield objective]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:46:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Icculus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3bcedb85b8a8a3263de4431e45dc3369.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546454/5955235.page"><b>Icculus wrote:</b></a><br/>I like the idea of adding the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span>, quad gun and grots. gives you a small group to hold a backfield objective</div></blockquote>Even better a battery of Big Gunz. <br /> Take as many extra krew as possible, so there's plenty of T7 Bs3 Grots to fire the Quad Gun. <br /> Not scoring normally, but much more durable / shooty. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:52:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2k orks: is this list competitive or casual?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for helping me soundboard some ideas. I've decided to pick up an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> and quadgun to give the lootas reliable 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(315);'>gtg</span> saves as well as a squad of grots for their bs3 and to adress scoring issues. Gonna use the extra 10 points for kombiburnas on the warbosses.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:25:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ralphinator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ might want to think making the bikers without <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>'s havin big choppas, they payoff against vehicles or even tougher units, you seem to have alot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>'s in that group might want to cut it down to 1pk for each waros and 1 nob with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> (thats still 4 which is powerful), grendel makes a good point about the big guns as well (altho <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> also take them with the amo runts) and if its comptative would depend on match type. if it is a objective based game your going to be hurting, but if your just going for kill points, you will do great, be weary of fliers with that list tho, also as for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> if your playing in a board with lots of terain and ruins, i wouldn't bother as your lootas canget  some pretty good coverage for free points in there, if thats not the case then <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> take the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:44:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Big Gunz seem like something interesting to try at a later date. I've never looked twice at them because in previous lists my heavy slots were always taken up by battlewagons. Do people usually take Lobbas or Kannons?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:16:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I ran a list like this the other day, it got murdered by a fraction of its points in volume of fire psychic shooting from Daemons of Chaos.]]></description>
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