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My 1st List Idea:
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Just threw it together now quick, have to enter the list tonight so i need them suggestions. And there IS room for improvement here definitely. List of stuff i own at bottom.

HQ:

Farseer - Jetbike, Singing Spear, Mantle = 160pts

Avatar - Crushing Blow = 205pts

TROOPS:

Jetbikes (3): Shuricannon = 61pts

Rangers (5): = 60pts

ELITES:

Wraithguard (5): = 160pts

DEDICATED TRANSPORT:

Wave Serpent: TL Scatters, Holo-fields = 135pts (For guard)

Wave Serpent: TL Scatters, Holo-fields = 135pts (For Reapers)

HEAVY SUPPORT:

Dark Reapers(5): Exarch w/ Fast Shot, Tempest Launcher, other 4 with starshots = 222pts

Wraithlord: 2 Brightlances, Ghostglaive, 2 flamers = 165pts

War Walkers (3): Each with Scatter Laser & Shuricannon = 195pts

TOTAL = 1498pts


WHAT I OWN:
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1 Farseer
1 Avatar
3 Warlocks
6 Jetbikes
5 Rangers
10 Dire Avengers
11 Guardians
9 Storm Guardians
6 Fire Dragons
6 Howling Banshees
5 Wraithguard
2 Wave Serpents
1 Falcon
5 Dark Reapers
3 War Walkers
1 Wraithlord




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Highly Mobile.
Extremely Tough.
Capable of killing anything but blobs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957158.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957158.page GMT Id love to but I don't own any. List of stuff I own is in the post, and no I do not have the money right now to go and buy two wraithknights ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957266.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957266.page GMT
On a serious note, I'd drop a few things. First is Avatar. The model is awesome and the guy is cool, but there are some key problems with him. First, the loss of certain Fortune plus the fact his invulnerable went from 5+ to 4+ and that MLs and LCs wound him on 2's means he will last a turn or two at the moat on the table. In a perfect scenario, he'll get a turn or two of shooting his meltas. 205 points is a helluva lot to spend on a fire magnet that has so little survivability. In a MC Eldar list he works. Outside of that, point sink.

Other change I'd do is to remove those Wraithguard. They aren't scoring and you have no shortage of high strength shots in your list. They serve no purpose in your list, except as an expensive suicide squad. Take Fire Dragons if you want something like that.


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I'd honestly get another WRJ squad in, rangers are good, especially with the WL to protect them from outflankers and the like. Take either 10 Dire Avengers or Guardians in aWave Serpent instead of those WG, or take 5/6 FD instead. Other than that, you are desperately in need of some FA choices. Warp Spiders first and foremost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5957342.page GMT
Just a thought. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5958647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5958647.page GMT
HQ

Farseer w/ jetbike, mantle of the laughing god (roll two on runes and try for fortune or another good power and then you can just take the div primaris for twinlinking goodness/ also hard to kill).

Troops

3 windrider jet bikes w/ shuricanon

3 windrider jetbikes w/ shuricanon (great for keeping in reserve and snatching objectives).

5 dire avengers
Wave serpent w/ holofields, scatter and shuricanon

10 guardians
Wave serpent w/ holofields, scatter and shuricanon

Elites

5 fire dragons
Wave serpent w/ holofields, scatter and shuricanon

(Hopefully you can proxy the falcob for a third serpent but wave serpents are fantastic - especially when used in groups of 3 or more! Blasting units and av 10-13 vehicles with no cover save with a twinlinked d6 +1 serpent shield at up to 60" range is a surprisingly lethal tactic).

Heavy support

3 war walkers w/ 2 brightlances each

Wraithlord w/ brightlance and another choice such as eml
(Not my favourite hs but a sturdy choice - especially with fortune).

5 dark reapers tailored to your meta

You can get this in your list for 1,500 points. I love the wave serpents and they can be effective anti air. You have a nice selection of different anti av 12-14 with the fragons, walkers, wraithlord abd serpents.

I have made this list light on elites and heavy on support and you still have some great troops choices with high mobility to boot!

Hope this helps just my thoughts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5960552.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5960552.page GMT SL/BL combo, but that is personal preference speaking.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5960902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5960902.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5961158.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/546681/5961158.page GMT