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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey there,<br /> <br /> Just starting out into Warhammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, and am liking the look of Chaos Space Marines as my first army. I've been reading a few posts on the forums and have come up with an army list.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Chaos Lord<br /> Murder Sword<br /> Sigil of Corruption<br /> 125pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines 9man<br /> Mark of Khorne<br /> 158pts<br /> <br /> Rhino with Havoc Launcher and Dirge Caster<br /> 52pts<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines 10man<br /> 1 Plasma Gun<br /> 1 Autocannon<br /> 165pts<br /> <br /> 500pts all up,<br /> <br /> The idea being the Khorne squad jumps in the Rhino with the Lord, and runs straight up at their leader, hopefully I can get into a challenge and destroy him<br /> While the 2nd squad sits on one of the points and shoots at stuff.<br /> <br /> Any ideas???]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:34:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Seigfried]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Issue i see is the turn you hop outtaa your rhino you cant assault till next turn. so you may get the gak shot outta you. other then that this is pretty close to what i took when i played 500 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 04:48:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MePeople]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Close combat units don't go in rhinos. Not only can they not launch an assault in a turn in which they started in a rhino, but they can't assault on a turn where last turn your opponent wrecked their rhino. It's absurd, but it's true - don't bother with transports with assault lists (unless you have land raiders, which you can't afford right now.<br /> <br /> For the rest of the list, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with no upgrades doesn't make much sense. If you dropped the rhino, you'd have points left over to upgrade those 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> into 9 berzerkers, who will do exactly what that squad does, but will do it better. In order to pull that off, you would need to give the chaos lord <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, but you should probably do that anyways, as then you'd gain access to the axe of blind fury.<br /> <br /> With a tiny bit of re-writing, your khorne-themed foot list could be...<br /> <br /> Lord - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Sigil, Axe of Blind Fury<br /> <br /> 8x berzerkers, IoW, champ with power axe<br /> 10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, 2x plasma guns<br /> <br /> ... which gets that IoW in there, and gives you access to army-wide fearless, and gives you berzerkers, which are better than no-bolter <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>. And the axe of blind fury is WAY better than the murder sword. I guess it's closer because we're talking about low-point games here, but still, you're pretty much proofed now if your opponent brings terminators or a monstrous creature, which is possible even at this points level.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:58:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ailaros]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500pt Beginner CSM Army list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Oh ok, I totally didn't realise that about Rhino's, I knew you couldn't assault out of them but not assaulting after your opponent has popped it, that seems weird.<br /> <br /> In that case hows this?<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Chaos Lord<br /> Mark of Khorne<br /> Axe of Blinding Fury<br /> Sigil of Corruption<br /> 135pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> Khorne Bezerkers 8man<br /> Icon of Wrath<br /> 1 Chainaxe<br /> Power Axe on the Champ<br /> 195pts<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines 10man<br /> 2 Plasma Gun<br /> 170pts<br /> <br /> 500pts all up,<br /> <br /> Had 3 points to spare so I chucked a Chainaxe in there.<br /> <br /> Is the Icon of Wrath worth the points seeing as I already have furious charge???<br /> <br /> Thanks for your help,<br /> -Seigfried]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:28:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Seigfried]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sure.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:04:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ailaros]]></author>
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