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				<description><![CDATA[ I want some comment so i can improve this list  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> My plan is to have 2 main attack forces, the bikes on one side of the table and burnas in battlewagon on other side. They are followed by the 1 boyz squads each for the cover benefit and for objectives. To give some support, i choose the dakkajet and the lootas. What do you guys think?<br /> <br /> <font color='darkred'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> </font><br /> Warboss (140pts)<br /> Bosspole Cybork body , Power klaw <br /> Warbike  <br /> <font color='darkred'>Elites(420pts)</font><br /> 13x Burna Boy (195pts)<br /> 15x Loota (225pts)<br /> <br /> <font color='darkred'>Troops (1040pts)</font><br /> Da Boss' Nobz (560pts) (all with warbike and cybork body)<br /> Nob <br /> Choppa,  Slugga<br /> Nob<br /> Choppa,  Slugga<br /> Nob <br /> Choppa, Slugga<br /> Nob <br /> Power klaw, <br /> Nob<br />  Power klaw<br /> Nob <br /> Big choppa<br /> Nob <br /> Big choppa<br /> Nob <br /> Big choppa  Waaagh! banner <br /> Painboy <br /> <br /> Ork Boyz (240pts)<br /> 26x Shoota<br /> 2BS, 1RL<br /> Nob <br /> Bosspole Power klaw <br /> <br /> Ork Boyz (240pts)<br /> 26x Shoota<br /> 2BS, 1RL<br /> Nob <br /> Bosspole  Power klaw <br /> <br /> <font color='darkred'>Fast Attack (130pts)</font><br /> Dakkajet (130pts)<br />  Additional twin-linked supa shoota Fighta Ace <br /> <br /> <font color='darkred'>Heavy Support (120pts)</font><br /> Battlewagon <br /> 4x Big shoota Grot riggers , Red paint job <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ looks fun. i found bikers are best when you have alot of them. <br /> few things.<br /> take the lootas and split them into x10 and x5 this is so your are not fearless and can go to ground in runes for a 2+ save<br /> also you can split your fire better and maybe get more shots.<br /> i think you have 1 to many <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pks</span> in the biker squad you only need 1-2 (warboss and a nob) it only takes 1 to pop a vehicle<br /> <br /> and i would ditch 3 big shootas on the BW cus 1fires at full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> and the others snapshot. <br /> rokkits in the boy squads? hmmmm i don't see much of a need cus its only 1shot and will miss normally. you wanna be firing your shoota boyz at men and not tanks. and you have the nob for being a kan opener i would stick with 3big shootas <br /> if you did what i said that gets you 25pts back also take off the grot riggers and take one of your burnas and make him a mek insted. than you got 30pts so throw 2 lootas into the squad of 5 to make 7. <br /> maybe i helped or gave you ideas!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i really  <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0"> the bikes.<br /> and more lootas... <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> you gave me some good ideas, thanks!<br /> <br /> and what about getting a kanon on the BW? or killkanon if i can cut enough points (maybe change <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>'s in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> from shoota squads)? If i'm not mistaken it can fire on another squad then the burnas are firing at, so i'm tempted to give it a chance]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:10:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977153.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>i really  <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0"> the bikes.<br /> and more lootas... <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> you gave me some good ideas, thanks!<br /> <br /> and what about getting a kanon on the BW? or killkanon if i can cut enough points (maybe change <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>'s in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> from shoota squads)? If i'm not mistaken it can fire on another squad then the burnas are firing at, so i'm tempted to give it a chance</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> i wouldnt give the battlewagon anything else besides 1BS cus you are gonna be moving up to flame the poop out of a squad so you will be snapfireing all the other guns. killikannon makes the cap only be 12 and you have 13 models so thats a nono.<br /> keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pks</span> in the boy squads just in case you need it.<br /> then models inside the BW can fire at diffrent targets but its just not worth it cus you only have 1BW and it will be focused so i wouldnt upgrade it to hard. keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> in the boy squads]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd recommend a Mek in with the burnas.<br /> You can only allocate wounds if you're in range of at least one weapon in the unit.<br /> So with all burnas, in your example if you score 13 hits (one for each Ork) with your templates, but only one model is in range of them (~8"), you can only allocate wounds to that one model.<br /> <br /> If there's a mek with a big shoota in there, wounds can allocated to models in the unit up to 36" away. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ about the BW being a fire magnet, your absolute correct, so no big gunz <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i've never thought about wound alocation that way, great! <br /> First day on dakkadakka and allready learing alot  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977221.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>about the BW being a fire magnet, your absolute correct, so no big gunz <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i've never thought about wound alocation that way, great! <br /> First day on dakkadakka and allready learing alot  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> also the mek has the 4+ repair on everyturn rather than only 1time a game. the grotrig only repairs imobile tests meks repair everything! <br /> and if worst comes to worst hes a bulletbag.<br /> and yes dakka is just a wonderful place full of friends and caring people out to teach everyone the wonders of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>!!  <img src="/s/i/a/a0063ed0e1a62441a38f6206bd3f5ad7.gif" border="0"> if only you can see the sarcastic face i am making =D]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:41:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a0ae163b7d9094e8d2f302034031fd60.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977251.page"><b>Orkimedezz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977221.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>about the BW being a fire magnet, your absolute correct, so no big gunz <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i've never thought about wound alocation that way, great! <br /> First day on dakkadakka and allready learing alot  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> also the mek has the 4+ repair on everyturn rather than only 1time a game. the grotrig only repairs imobile tests meks repair everything! <br /> and if worst comes to worst hes a bulletbag.<br /> and yes dakka is just a wonderful place full of friends and caring people out to teach everyone the wonders of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>!!  <img src="/s/i/a/a0063ed0e1a62441a38f6206bd3f5ad7.gif" border="0"> if only you can see the sarcastic face i am making =D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> let's all sit in a circle around a fire , hold each others hands and sing kumbaya my lord  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:44:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977259.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a0ae163b7d9094e8d2f302034031fd60.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977251.page"><b>Orkimedezz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977221.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>about the BW being a fire magnet, your absolute correct, so no big gunz <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i've never thought about wound alocation that way, great! <br /> First day on dakkadakka and allready learing alot  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> also the mek has the 4+ repair on everyturn rather than only 1time a game. the grotrig only repairs imobile tests meks repair everything! <br /> and if worst comes to worst hes a bulletbag.<br /> and yes dakka is just a wonderful place full of friends and caring people out to teach everyone the wonders of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>!!  <img src="/s/i/a/a0063ed0e1a62441a38f6206bd3f5ad7.gif" border="0"> if only you can see the sarcastic face i am making =D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> let's all sit in a circle around a fire , hold each others hands and sing kumbaya my lord  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> exactly <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My Suggestions  swap 1 Burnas for 1 Meks with KMB<br /> Drop 3 Burnas for 3 more lootas <br /> Split the Lootas into two groups of 9 ..<br /> <br /> Drop the rokkits out of the boyz mobs for big shootas<br /> Drop the Grot Rigger and all 4 Big Shootas<br /> Drop one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pk</span> from the Nob biker squad<br /> Put a deffrolla, and 4 rokkits on the Wagon ..and Have fun killing stuff <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> or a deffrolla .Kannon and two rokkits ..and two big shootas <br /> and just have a blast as your opponet tryies to kill that Wagon before it reaches him ..;o)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Make sure to Run over any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> that the opponet puts forward as this is the vehicle for killin it ..]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ burna-mek swap, done!<br /> <br /> lootas, gotta buy some more, only have 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span> so i'll have a look at ebay.<br /> <br /> About the rokkits in the squads, you guys are totally right, i will take some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> from my bits and make the guys useful again.<br /> <br /> will think about the deffrola , and will try it in friendly matches but the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> is glued to the biker and it's the squad with my best paintjob so i'm not gonna tear of it's beloved claw and ruin his precious skin <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> But i can leave the guy at home offcourse...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Leaving powerklaw at home</span>, <span style="font-size: 7px; line-height: normal;">NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</span><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977586.page"><b>morfydd wrote:</b></a><br/>My Suggestions  swap 1 Burnas for 1 Meks with KMB<br /> Drop 3 Burnas for 3 more lootas <br /> Split the Lootas into two groups of 9 ..<br /> <br /> Drop the rokkits out of the boyz mobs for big shootas<br /> Drop the Grot Rigger and all 4 Big Shootas<br /> Drop one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pk</span> from the Nob biker squad<br /> Put a deffrolla, and 4 rokkits on the Wagon ..and Have fun killing stuff <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> or a deffrolla .Kannon and two rokkits ..and two big shootas <br /> and just have a blast as your opponet tryies to kill that Wagon before it reaches him ..;o)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Make sure to Run over any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> that the opponet puts forward as this is the vehicle for killin it ..</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pk</span> in the nobs just for that extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> you need to blow crap up. its annoying when your warboss is useless and you have to spend another turn kill the vehicle <br /> i wouldnt put much on the bw cus they do blow up semi easy.  i say that cus it is oppend topped so when they do pen it, its normally gone <br /> rokkets arnt worth it on a bw i think 40pts is better spent else were.<br /> the drop 3 burnas i like the idea i think he should do that aswell. that way when it blows you aint just gonna get templated ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Only one Dakkajet? I'd just take an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> (or two) with a couple of squads of 9 Gretchin to man it, and use those in stead, you need more than one Dakkajet for them to be really effective, if you only take one you could probably get some more lootas or something o3o]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ think i'm gonna do this:<br /> <br /> keep the powerklaw<br /> 2 squads of 9 lootas<br /> <br /> 9 burnas and 1 mek in bw<br /> <br /> bw with one big shoota and deff rolla.<br /> <br /> seems ok to me  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5a7217e654ac14f79e2f1bdff9073d35.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977691.page"><b>BrotherOfBone wrote:</b></a><br/>Only one Dakkajet? I'd just take an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> (or two) with a couple of squads of 9 Gretchin to man it, and use those in stead, you need more than one Dakkajet for them to be really effective, if you only take one you could probably get some more lootas or something o3o</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> dakkajets arnt really for anti-air<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977697.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>think i'm gonna do this:<br /> <br /> keep the powerklaw<br /> 2 squads of 9 lootas<br /> <br /> 9 burnas and 1 mek in bw<br /> <br /> bw with one big shoota and deff rolla.<br /> <br /> seems ok to me  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> looks great to me! maybe not to others but i dont think they took the time to really read what your doin.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:22:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1850 pts ork list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ thanks alot!<br /> <br /> and i prefer the dakkajet over gretchin just because i like it , and i never bought gretchin models cause i used to run a speed freeks list in 5th ed. <br /> Let the jet do some shooting and be annoying as hell to draw maximum fire  <img src="/s/i/a/b3ae9cf68ec71745d6b110374d581299.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:28:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wallygator]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 pts ork list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977837.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>thanks alot!<br /> <br /> and i prefer the dakkajet over gretchin just because i like it , and i never bought gretchin models cause i used to run a speed freeks list in 5th ed. <br /> Let the jet do some shooting and be annoying as hell to draw maximum fire  <img src="/s/i/a/b3ae9cf68ec71745d6b110374d581299.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> you should see the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> 3 dakkajets and a weirdboy can do in one game! free waaaggghs yes please! 54shots a turn!<br /> the grots behind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> not to great lootas are your anti air]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:38:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Orkimedezz]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 pts ork list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a0ae163b7d9094e8d2f302034031fd60.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977884.page"><b>Orkimedezz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a10816fba42950ed45c065d43032ffe8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547877/5977837.page"><b>wallygator wrote:</b></a><br/>thanks alot!<br /> <br /> and i prefer the dakkajet over gretchin just because i like it , and i never bought gretchin models cause i used to run a speed freeks list in 5th ed. <br /> Let the jet do some shooting and be annoying as hell to draw maximum fire  <img src="/s/i/a/b3ae9cf68ec71745d6b110374d581299.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> you should see the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> 3 dakkajets and a weirdboy can do in one game! free waaaggghs yes please! 54shots a turn!<br /> the grots behind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> not to great lootas are your anti air</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yes sir!!  <img src="/s/i/a/9576fdd015edbd19edbaabd1556a4944.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:44:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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