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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys!<br /> <br /> A lot of talk about the new Space Marine codex, and just for funzies I thought I'd start putting together a new list. Of course, not all of the points values are certain yet, but from rumours and estimates, this should be pretty close to 1500 points. The army will just be one cohesive homebrew chapter, but for the sake of having an assault squad as troops, I'm technically allying in some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>.<br /> <br /> <font color='green'><b>RAVEN GUARD</b><br /> <br /> Cpt. Shrike<br /> <br /> 10 vanguard vets w. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(457);'>JP</span> and 70 points worth of upgrades<br /> <br /> 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad w. grav gun + razorback<br /> <br /> 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad w. grav gun + razorback<br /> <br /> 5 sniper scouts with cloaks and missile launcher<br /> <br /> 5 sniper scouts with cloaks and missile launcher<br /> <br /> 3 bikes + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> attack bike<br /> <br /> <b>ALLIED <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span></b><br /> <br /> Librarian w. jump pack – shield of sanguinius + blood lance<br /> <br /> 10 Assault marines w. jump packs, 2 flamers, power lance + combat shield sergeant<br /> <br /> Storm Raven</font><br /> <br /> The idea would be that Shrike joins the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> assault squad, giving it scout and shroud. Then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> libby joins the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span>, receiving scout and shroud. He uses his psychic powers to give them all a 5+ save (becoming 4+ w. shroud). Before first turn begins you have shrike, a libby, 20 marines, 2 full razorbacks and a bike squad all sitting on the middle of the table, whilst a couple of sniper squads hold home objectives or hide in centre-field cover.<br /> <br /> The SR is just there to bring some aerial support, and pick up any troops that need a ride. Overall my main fear is that I'll get blasted away before I get into combat (as with any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> army in 6th edition), and also that when I get there, I may not have sufficient answers to particular units (if I charge into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> specialists, am I just impaling myself? And am I able to deal with mech/flyers sufficiently?) I don't play tournaments at all, just very casual, but I'd like to at least be respectably competitive.<br /> <br /> Thoughts appreciated!!!]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ superwill]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Hypothetical new Raven Guard w. Blood Angels Allies - 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Raven guard jump pack troops are bulky and don't get shroud or scout. Might want to rethink your list<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Same for bikes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:32:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Inquisitor_Dunn]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Hypothetical new Raven Guard w. Blood Angels Allies - 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I thought that the rumours were that all units in the new codex with the Raven Guard chapter tactics are receiving shroud for the first turn, and scout?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:00:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ superwill]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, except if those units are Bulky or Very Bulky...<br /> Kind of ruins the point of weaving a big storyline about Shrike and his Assault Marines special bodyguards running a two year long campaing behind ennemy lines and then specificly forbidding that unit to benefit from the sneaky special rules from the Chapter Tactics. Go figure...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:53:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jpwyrm]]></author>
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