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				<description><![CDATA[ I wanted to try a fun list that is completely absurd but now I'm curious as to if it's actually effective in theory.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Librarian<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> storm bolter<br /> <br /> Command squad<br /> 2 power fist<br /> power sword<br /> plasma pistol<br /> apothecary<br /> 2 lightning claw<br /> Standard of Devastation<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> Plasma cannon<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Assault cannon<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical x6<br /> melta gun<br /> combi melta<br /> Razorback<br /> <br /> Troops x6 <br /> storm bolter<br /> plasma gun<br /> Razorback<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Tactical x8<br /> plasma gun <br /> combi flamer<br /> <br /> Tactical x8<br /> plasma gun <br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Predator<br /> 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> Storm bolter<br /> <br /> Devastators x8<br /> 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> 3 Flakk missile<br /> <br /> 19&7<br /> <br /> So I'm pretty sure this is legal because I have 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s but I'm never really sure, my usual group aren't really rule hounds. <br /> <br /> General idea, 2 librarians casting prescience as needed behind the 2  8-man squads gaining 2/4 salvo from the command squad along with the predator, devastators, and rifle dread as backfield support and scoring.  The 2 razorback squads supported by the 2 dreadnoughts each, so a total of 4 advancing dreadnoughts for rushing objectives. My real concern is the exact dreadnought loadout and maximizing of points, I'm not sure what to add. All of the units are modeled as is except for the vehicles which have interchangeable stuff. <br /> <br /> Love for some feedback <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>2000 point DA dreadnought spam</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If its massed dreads you are after, I hear that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> do it better.  I think you will have to get your points total to 2000 exactly though to make double force org legal. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/548780/5992036.page"><b>Jvinlove wrote:</b></a><br/>I wanted to try a fun list that is completely absurd but now I'm curious as to if it's actually effective in theory.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Librarian<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> storm bolter<br /> <br /> <b>Scrap the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> if you can. <br /> <br /> I would also not take a second Libby with this list at all, use the points elsewhere where they're needed</b><br /> <br /> Command squad<br /> 2 power fist<br /> power sword<br /> plasma pistol<br /> apothecary<br /> 2 lightning claw<br /> Standard of Devastation<br /> <br /> <b>Never tool up an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> squad for heavy melee, especially if they have no method of transport. Don't do it.<br /> <br /> And never, ever, take a plasma pistol</b><br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> <b>Scrap the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, you want their anti <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> capability from the fist</b><br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> Plasma cannon<br /> <br /> <b>Ditto, switch the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> to a Lascannon, you will find more use out of it and your fire will be more concentrated.</b><br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> Assault cannon<br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Dreadnought<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <br /> <b>I'd recommend you turn at least two with fists into venerable. Its super cheap too.<br /> </b><br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical x6<br /> melta gun<br /> combi melta<br /> Razorback<br /> <br /> <b>Melta is too situational to be good, always take plasma here instead, make the Razorback a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(756);'>TLLC</span> or Lasplas.</b><br /> <br /> Troops x6 <br /> storm bolter<br /> plasma gun<br /> Razorback<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> <b>No Storm Bolter.<br /> <br /> Razorbacks are not efficient sources of firepower and increase the likelihood you'll concede first blood. I would strongly recommend you use the points elsewhere and maybe invest in an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> with Quad Gun, which has many uses with this list.<br /> </b><br /> <br /> Tactical x8<br /> plasma gun <br /> combi flamer<br /> <br /> <b>Keep the intent of the squad focused, take a combined plasma here if at all. <br /> </b><br /> Tactical x8<br /> plasma gun <br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Predator<br /> 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> Storm bolter<br /> <br /> <b>No storm bolter.</b><br /> <br /> Devastators x8<br /> 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> 3 Flakk missile<br /> <br /> <b>This is not good as your only source of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>. And before anyone says it, a Helldrake would not be kind to these guys. </b><br /> <br /> 19&7<br /> <br /> So I'm pretty sure this is legal because I have 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s but I'm never really sure, my usual group aren't really rule hounds. <br /> <br /> General idea, 2 librarians casting prescience as needed behind the 2  8-man squads gaining 2/4 salvo from the command squad along with the predator, devastators, and rifle dread as backfield support and scoring.  The 2 razorback squads supported by the 2 dreadnoughts each, so a total of 4 advancing dreadnoughts for rushing objectives. My real concern is the exact dreadnought loadout and maximizing of points, I'm not sure what to add. All of the units are modeled as is except for the vehicles which have interchangeable stuff. <br /> <br /> Love for some feedback <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Your list has a lot of what I like to call "plasma pistol syndrome" wherein you waste points on little things that contribute practically nothing and take away the focus.<br /> <br /> You want focus in this kind of list. I would definitely take an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span>, having 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(315);'>GTG</span> cover saves and 4+ otherwise is invaluable, as is the Quad Gun. Hell, you could take a pair or one and a Bastion with one.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:58:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr.Omega]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point DA dreadnought spam</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you want Dread spam, run Codex marines.<br /> <br /> Master of the forge allowz you to take Dreads in your heavy slots. No double force orge required.  So you could field 6 dreads in a much smaller list.<br /> <br /> Oh and you would get access to Ironclads. AV13 dreads, yummy. (Drop pods are a must have though)]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ SickSix]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can have 11 dreds in 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>foc</span> (albeit no scoring units) in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> army. 3 dreds (heavy), 3 furioso (elites) and 5 death co (troops). You will need 5 death co for each death co dred though. But seeing as you can have a squad of 30 this is no probs. As i say though - it wont be scoring.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:54:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Poly Ranger]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point DA dreadnought spam</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/fbf065454d41e4a34cbbdba1f5a3c55f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/548780/5992904.page"><b>SickSix wrote:</b></a><br/>If you want Dread spam, run Codex marines.<br /> <br /> Master of the forge allowz you to take Dreads in your heavy slots. No double force orge required.  So you could field 6 dreads in a much smaller list.<br /> <br /> Oh and you would get access to Ironclads. AV13 dreads, yummy. (Drop pods are a must have though)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Pfft no, vastly more expensive Dreadnoughts, terrible Libbies, Tactical and Devastators, and no S.O.D.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Mr.Omega]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 point DA dreadnought spam</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the ideas, mr. omega your tips really make sense, my biggest issue is that the infantry are all modeled already. The sergeants I could fix up relatively easy. I've also always wondered is it worth it giving sergeants fists other power weapons cause most, if not all, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> units slaughter them usually. <br /> <br /> The command squad intention was to not only to provide the standard but also to serve as a counter-assault unit. I've tried with a terminator command squad but it requires a terminator librarian and it is a huge point sink, plus it got chewed up by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> last time I ran it. <br /> <br /> Kingleir and Sick Six, I am eagerly waiting on the new C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>. I'm fairly excited but I have to the current one but I've been using the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> book to maximize the bolters plus cheaper units overall. ]]></description>
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