http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Ethereal

Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
3 Crisis suits - 6 x missle pods

11 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod

6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders

Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, longstrike, sms, blacksun
Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, blacksun
Skyray - blacksun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6004222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6004222.page GMT taxing and shouldn't be taken unless you're going to take full advantage of it. More or less you are paying approximately 56 points (from all the bonding knives) just to make that 1 squad of crisis suits into troops. I see their purpose to be mechanized objective grabbers, but you already have the Devilfish riding FW for that. If you're going to bring a Farsight Enclave, take full advantage of it. Things like the Earth Caste Piloting array, more crisis teams, a battlesuit commander with a drone controller attached to some marker drones (in lieu of the static pathfinders). I mean it could work, but I feel that you're paying way too much to make a squad of suits into troops]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6005751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6005751.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6006247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6006247.page GMT
Question:
Which build do you think is better:

Ethereal

Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
3 Crisis suits - 6 x missle pods

11 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod

6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders

Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, longstrike, sms
Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, blacksun
Skyray - blacksun

-or-

Ethereal

Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor

17 kroot - 1 hound, sniper
11 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod
12 Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/ disruption pod

6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders

Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, longstrike, sms, blacksun, disruption pod
Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, blacksun, disruption pod
Skyray - blacksun
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The Enclave list is really only good if you want lots of suits since for a 3 point per unit tax, you rally on normal Ld when you run out of drones (remember they count as normal squad members) on your broadside and crisis teams. You should maximise on that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007303.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007303.page GMT
Maybe I am wrong, I will be playtesting starting next week. I need to get 1 more hammerhead and 1 more riptide tomorrow to finish the army.
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I might be wrong, but I played fish of fury in 4th and I know how to use the fish to block the warriors while they do their thing. I think it will somewhat translate here.

So you think I should drop all 3 fish and take some outflanking kroot instead?

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Ethereal

Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor
Riptide - fusion, ion, skyfire, interceptor

20 kroot - snipers, 1 hound
20 kroot - snipers, 1 hound
12 Fire Warriors
12 Fire Warriors
12 Fire Warriors

6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders
6 Pathfinders

Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, longstrike, sms
Hammerhead - rail, submunitions, blacksun
Skyray - blacksun, sms
Aegis - quad gun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007731.page GMT Unless you are planning on taking mid-field objectives and/or are using carbines.

It may not happen often, but that one time you pin a squad of terminators in your DZ ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007734.page GMT
Also, the HBC is generally better with a VT than Iontides

Mathhammer vs av 12
Ion = 1.5 hits, .5 hull points lost
HBC 4 hits, 2/3rds hull points lost
Nova HBC 6 hits, 1 Pen]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007780.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007815.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6007815.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6008464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549427/6008464.page GMT