VillageZach wrote:
This list will get ripped to shreds. I play DA and you cant have foot slogging marines in this edition, Tau, Eldar and so many other factions would wipe your guys off the board before you Run up and get into salvo threat range.

Jpat1213 wrote:
HQ-295
Librarian 130
Auspex
PFG
Terminator armour

The PFG means you have to bunch up all your Terminators so I wouldn't take it.

Command Squad 165
Banner of Devistation

Elites-490
Terminator Squad 490
x2 assault cannons
x2 chainfist
x3 LC

You want at least 3 stormshields here or an MC and concentrated shooting will rip this unit to pieces. Also, using SB/PF is preferable to LC's as until your ablative Hamernators get killed they're as good as TH/SS as far as you care.

Troops-490
Tactical Squad(7) 98
x7 bolters
Tactical Squad(7) 98
x7 bolters
Tactical Squad(7) 98
x7 bolters
Tactical Squad(7) 98
x7 bolters
Tactical Squad(7) 98
x7 bolters

Anything that won't be annihilated by 30 Tactical Marines under the SOD is probably an MC, in which case the extra shots will make little difference. You don't need anymore than that.

Heavy-530
Deathwing Land Raider Crusader280

This is really quite out of place, you can't fit all the Termies in here and there are far more efficient sources of firepower.


Vindicator 125
Vindicator 125

Naff, easy to neutralize, don't fit well with a static list and they're not Tri-Las predators. They would be a far better option, as you can tackle AT and MC's with them quite well.


Terminators deepstrike w/ the libby have a 4++ and twin linked shooting all game and if assaulted still remain strong this also provides me with a solid AA unit.

Pffft don't make me crank out the Math hammer.I can assure you that they are crap AA. Also, you are investing far too much in a mediocre unit.

To me it pretty much sums the DA codex up and shooty army with alot of punch @ 24" away while still remaining survivable

A Helldrake, Riptide spam and MC circus would have a field day with this list. You have one unit that can 'tackle' an MC, and at that only a lesser one. Your AA is abysmal and located in one unit that will be busy doing everything else.

puts me at 168 bolter shots 2 large templates and enough assault cannons to deal with AA

That leaves me 45 points shy of my goal any input on what to use it on? Also any input on what should be adjusted?.

 Mr.Omega wrote:
You have a 4.527% chance of destroying an AV12 flyer outright with both assault cannons and TL re-rolls, and you'll score average 0.272 hull points a turn.

You should not be getting a six between every two dice on average, BTW.

Jpat1213 wrote:

 Mr.Omega wrote:
You have a 4.527% chance of destroying an AV12 flyer outright with both assault cannons and TL re-rolls, and you'll score average 0.272 hull points a turn.

You should not be getting a six between every two dice on average, BTW.

I rolled it out 10 times and got an average of 3-5 hits and the most i got was 6 hit

 Mr.Omega wrote:

Jpat1213 wrote:

 Mr.Omega wrote:
You have a 4.527% chance of destroying an AV12 flyer outright with both assault cannons and TL re-rolls, and you'll score average 0.272 hull points a turn.

You should not be getting a six between every two dice on average, BTW.

I rolled it out 10 times and got an average of 3-5 hits and the most i got was 6 hit

You should be getting average 2.4

Considering you then need an additional 6, those aren't good odds.

flodihn wrote:
I have a question.

You have the banner of devastation, it gives the bolter bonus to all units within 6 inches.

Would it not be better to have fewer units maxed out than many smaller units? (If they need to be within range of the banner).