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Thoughts and feelings on the list below, it will be made from marine vehicles, rhinos for trukks, stormtalon for Dakkajet, land raider for Battlewagon:

HQ

Warboss
Bosspole, Cybork Body, Power Klaw, Slugga, Warbike
Pts - 140

Warboss
Bosspole, 'eavy armour, power klaw, shoota/scorcha and cybork body.
Pts - 110

Troops

5 Meganobz (Larog's boyz)
Pts - 200

5 Nobz (Barog's boyz)
Warbikes, 3 power klaws, Waaagh banner, painboy and cybork bodies.
Pts - 370

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole, trukk with reinforced ram, grot riggers and boarding plank.
Pts - 167

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole, trukk with reinforced ram, grot riggers and boarding plank.
Pts - 167

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole, trukk with reinforced ram, grot riggers and boarding plank.
Pts - 167

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole, trukk with reinforced ram, grot riggers and boarding plank.
Pts - 167

Fast Attack

Dakkajet
Extra super shoota, fighter ace
Pts - 130

Heavy Support

Battlewagon
Deff rolla, grot riggers, armour plates, 1 big shoota
Pts - 130

Deff Dread
2 x scorcha, grot riggers and extra armour
Pts - 100

Total - 1,848]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011435.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. IMO.

Personally I'd ditch the walker, I don't think it's going to do anything because it's so slow. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011464.page GMT Re:Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011484.page GMT Re:Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive.
Also your warboss without a bike might as well take mega armour, he'll get all the same gear you are paying for but with get a 2+ armour save to boot. slow and purposeful isn't much of a concern as you have transport and between him and his unit he should be smashing just about everything anyway.

i also see little point in taking riggers or planks on the trukk's, they are cheap transports, adding all that gear to a armour 10 open-topped vehicle just seems a waste of points really.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011556.page GMT Re:Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. KFF to give my vehicles a 5+ cover save, making them even more durable and ensuring they get to the other side of the board.

Here's the thing. Trukks are pretty much made to move flat out the extra 12 inches and die (and not ram), with that in mind the only useful upgrade is red paint job as it gives you that little extra boost to make it to your opponent- trust me- every inch counts.

Deffy is cool and good for taking out pesky snipers behind cover but not in this list, like the other posters have said: hes too slow.

With the points you save from those downgrades invest in more mech and depending on what you choose can determine victory or defeat against different opponents.

If you play against armies with lots of air support then an additional Dakkajet is the way to go, if you go against an all ground army, then an additional battlewagon is you best bet. The battlewagon is better for you IMO because it'll get your meganobz across the board faster and also dish out some damage against any heavy vehicles (leman russ tanks are a pain in the rear).

Just remember: 'If "it" gets killed what will you do?' is a good thing to have in mind, always bring a spare -or two!

Oh! and how are you Boyz loaded, shootas or sluggas? PKs may not be a good investment due to your list being heavy in the anti-vehicle department and the small groups easier to kill, I would also drop the 'eavy armour. Big choppas can still give you that extra punch while being 20 pts cheaper, especially when you're running slugga/choppa boyz, as they can easily glance AV 10 vehicles to death on the charge. Just a thought as those extra points could be used for more bikers, or even another jet/wagon if you scrounge enough points.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011918.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. I also agree that you should drop the Deffdreads, they are slow and will never see combat
maybe you can get Big Gunz instead, or some Lootas]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6011945.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive.
Thanks for all the really helpful comments.

Def gonna mega armour the warboss and give attack squigs to both, also remove the extra upgrades from the trukks. Should free up some points for the other bits you guys have mentioned.

Wolflord I run them as shoota boys. And I like the idea of squeezing in another wagon.

I see the point with the walker, he will be sooooo far behind the army it will be pointless.

Thanks again for all help, gonna help no end. Cheers guys, will post up an altered list soon.


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Ok, have made some changes.

1,850 point Bad Moon list

HQ

Warboss
Bosspole, Cybork Body, Power Klaw, Slugga, attack squig, Warbike
Pts - 155

Warboss
Bosspole, mega armour, attack squig and cybork body.
Pts - 120

Troops

5 Meganobz
Pts - 200

5 Nobz
Warbikes, 3 power klaws, Waaagh banner, painboy and cybork bodies.
Pts - 370

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

Fast Attack

Dakkajet
Extra super shoota, fighter ace (BS3)
Pts - 130

Dakkajet
Extra super shoota, fighter ace (BS3)
Pts - 130

Heavy Support

Battlewagon
Deff rolla, grot riggers, armour plates, 2 big shoota's
Pts - 135

Total - 1,848]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012036.page GMT Re:Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012785.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012838.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive.
 phatonic wrote:
Why use the battlewagon as a heavy supourt when you can use it as a dedicated transport? it's a chanse for a free killpoint if you get Big guns never tire.


Very good point, and not sure why its there!! Thanks


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wolflord43 wrote:
Definitely more solid. May the WAAAGGHHH! be with you.


Thanks Wolf, cheers again for the help


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So, after all the advice taken on board. Last tweak taking the BW out of heavy:

1,850 point Bad Moon list

HQ

Warboss (Barog)
Bosspole, Cybork Body, Power Klaw, Slugga, attack squig, Warbike
Pts - 155

Warboss (Larog)
Bosspole, mega armour, cybork body.
Pts - 120

Troops

5 Meganobz (Larog's boyz)
Pts - 200

Dedicated transport for Meganobz - Battlewagon
Deff rolla, grot riggers, armour plates, 2 big shoota's
Pts - 135

5 Nobz (Barog's boyz)
Warbikes, 3 power klaws, Waaagh banner, painboy and cybork bodies.
Pts - 370

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

12 Boyz
Nob with pk, 'eavy armour and boss pole. Mounted in trukk.
Pts - 152

Fast Attack

Dakkajet
Extra super shoota, fighter ace (BS3)
Pts - 130

Dakkajet
Extra super shoota, fighter ace (BS3)
Pts - 130

Total - 1,848]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012861.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6012861.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. IG Arty Heavy will give it fits ..but IG Arty Heavy Armies give all Ork Builds fits ...Two Death Stars and a pile of Trukker Boyz ..Cant complain ..It will do some damage..Just Use the DakkaJets on the Rear armour of any LRBT's that you see]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013139.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive. IG arty lists (and who isn't), the Forgeworld Grot Bomm Launcha is a hard counter to such things and really evens out the field.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013156.page GMT Ork 1850, not worried about how competitive.
morfydd wrote:
Second iteration looks good ..IG Arty Heavy will give it fits ..but IG Arty Heavy Armies give all Ork Builds fits ...Two Death Stars and a pile of Trukker Boyz ..Cant complain ..It will do some damage..Just Use the DakkaJets on the Rear armour of any LRBT's that you see


That's basically the plan, I think it should be quite fun to play. Looking forward to trying it out, just gotta convert myself another dakkajet


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 Dakkamite wrote:
If your troubled by IG arty lists (and who isn't), the Forgeworld Grot Bomm Launcha is a hard counter to such things and really evens out the field.


I've not used those before, but hear more and more about them being used successfully. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013189.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549873/6013189.page GMT