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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry about the previous stupidity, I was tired when I was adding up the points. Anyway could you please review this list?<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Librarian:<br /> 	- Upgrade to Pysker (Mastery level 2) + 25pts<br /> 	- Chapter relic (Shield eternal) + 55pts<br /> 	- Terminator armour + 25pts<br /> Totals: 170 points<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical squads: X2<br /> 	- Includes 5 additional Spacemarines +70pts<br /> 	- Special weapon (Melta) + 10pts<br /> 	- Heavy weapon (Multi-melta) + 10pts<br /> 	- Sergeant has a Combi-melta + 10pts<br /> Dedicated transport:<br /> 	- Drop pod + 35pts<br /> 	- Locator beacon + 10pts<br /> Total: 215pts/430pts<br /> <br /> <br /> Heavy support:<br /> Stormraven gunship: X4<br /> 	- Replace twin-linked Assault-cannon with a Twin-linked Las-cannon <br /> 	- Replace twin-linked heavy Bolter with a Multi-melta<br /> 	- Replace side access ports with Hurricane Bolters + 30pts<br /> 	- Searchlight + 1pts<br /> 	- Extra armour + 5pts<br /> Total: 236pts/708pts<br />   <br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Vanguard veteran squad:X2<br /> 	- Includes 5 additional Spacemarines + 95pts<br /> 	- 8 have Power weapons + 120pts<br /> 	- Thunder hammer/Storm shield + 60pts<br /> 	- Sergeant has a Plasma pistol + 15pts<br /> Total: 385pts/770pts<br /> <br /> Sternguard veteran squad x 2<br /> 	- 5 additional members + 110pts<br /> 	- Storm bolters + 50pts<br /> 	- 2 plasma cannons + 30pts<br /> Total: 330/660 points<br /> <br /> Ironclad dreadnaught x 2<br /> 	- Replace Melta-gun with heavy-flamer<br /> <br /> Total: 135pts/270pts]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Hammer_of_Dorn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Please respond, as I would like suggestions on improving my army list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:00:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hammer_of_Dorn]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Imperial fists 3000 point army list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Play eldar  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:42:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ hiveof_chimera]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Imperial fists 3000 point army list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ^ Ignore the pointy eared emo  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I'm no 'expert' but to be honest I think your list isn't legal - I see 1HQ, 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> & 6 ELITE? If you're doubling up on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> you need another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>...right?<br /> <br /> Also I'd say the list isn't optimised to take advantage of the Chapter's Traits, there's not enough Troops at 3,000pts to secure victory on objective based games (unless you don't take the game seriously enough - which is fine) but I'd say it's not a very 'Imperial Fist' theme list from a background POV, which I find helps army selection no end. I see Imperial Fists as having heavy gun lines with some more attacking elements.<br /> <br /> For me there's not enough balance between the elements (he says all sage like) - I'd have at least 4 Troops choices (3 Tactical & 1 Scout with/Land Speeder Storm), you could even throw a Sniper Scout Squad into the mix. I'd add either some Devastators or 6 Devastator Centurions w/Lascannons & Missile Launchers with a Defence Line or some other Fortification as well.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I don't know how effective the Vanguard Squads will be for their points total - 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>'s in each is a heck of a lot and may not mean much unless you play against lots of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> Infantry armies. I'd rather a Squad of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Terminators led by Lysander for roughly the same points. <br /> <br /> If you're going Stormraven's then I see no need for the locator beacons on the Drop Pods. This said I like Ironclads  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> If in doubt proxy and see how it plays.<br /> <br /> Hope this helps... <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:31:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ warspawned]]></author>
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