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				<title>1500 pt mostly deathwing attempt at a competitive army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys, even though I've never played warhammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> except on vassal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, I have a very competitive streak and would like to build something competitive.  I would like to do it with the deathwing.  If I were to go with higher points I would add in more deathwing knights, and finish out the attack squadron.  Anyway, any critiques you guys can provide are greatly appreciated =).<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Belial standard<br /> Deathwing Command Squad x5 w/ Deathwing Company banner (possibly reduce units a bit and put in standard of fortitude?), and deathwing champion<br /> Elites:<br /> Deathwing Knights x7 w/ deathwing knight master<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Deathwing Terminator Squad x5, w/ 1x assualt cannon 1x chainfist<br /> Deathwing Terminator squad x5, w/ 1x cyclone missile launcher 1x chainfist<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Ravenwing Attack Squadron x7, 5 bikes 1 veteran w/ power lance, 1 attack bike<br /> <br /> My plan is to put down my troops, and attach belial to the deathwing knights mobs.  I deploy the bikes, and one troop terminator squad with the missile launcher.  The rest will deepstrike around the bike squad after their first movement, with the deathwing knights in the front belial in the back of them, and the command squad with 1 other troop squad in the same area for a massive alpha strike.  Again, any critiques are appreciated!<br /> <br /> Also, the idea is with more deathwing knights is that I can maintain fortress of shields which has in the vassal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games I've played proved to be VERY effective.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:05:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Niexist]]></author>
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				<title>1500 pt mostly deathwing attempt at a competitive army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you want to be very competitive, I wouldn't recommend Deathwing! However, if those are the guys you want to run, lets have a look. <br /> <br /> 1) Deathwing Command - nice but bloody expensive at 1500. Two troops is not going to win you games. Consider downgrading to a troops squad. Banners with the Terminators is dead risky, and very expensive. <br /> <br /> 2) Knights - again, pricey but really awesome. Maybe keep to the basic five. They're a good distraction from your scoring units. Shoot these bad boys, ignore the scorers or vice versa. Personally I'd drop the knights for a fourth terminator squad. Fearless scoring terminators are the strong point of Deathwing. Adding stuff to that is likely to weaken the overall army. <br /> <br /> 3) What about:<br /> <br /> Belial<br /> 10 Deathwing Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2 Chainfists - 510<br /> 10 Deathwing Terminators, 2 Cyclone Missile Launchers, 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> - 510<br /> (normally split down into a close combat squads and dual heavy weapon squad but can stay joined in kill points). <br /> 3 Ravenwing Bikes, 2 Flamers - 90<br /> Attack Bike, Multi-Melta - 55<br /> 3 Ravenwing Bikes, 2 Flamers - 90<br /> Attack Bike, Multi-Melta - 55<br /> <br /> If you're going first, you scout up 12", deathwing drop everything turn 1.<br /> If you're going second, use the scout move to get behind <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span> blocking. Then flat out boost to closer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span> blocking and dump the terminator turn 2. Slightly alteration of dumping Belial with a 10 man unit turn 1 (probably the assault cannon unit) then bringing two missile units to take objectives.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:12:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ rossatdi]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 pt mostly deathwing attempt at a competitive army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Deathwing Terminators can't combat squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:33:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jvinlove]]></author>
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