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				<title>1850 New Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 1850 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> (UM Chapter Tactics) <br />  <br /> Tigurius 165<br />  <br /> 10 Sternguard 230 w/ pod 35<br />  <br /> 5 Scouts  w/ bolters, camo cloaks, teleport homer 75<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines  - melta, multimelta, combi-melta 170 w/ pod 35<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines - melta , multimelta, combi-melta 170 w/ pod 35<br />  <br /> Storrm Talon w/ Skyhammer Missles 125<br /> Storrm Talon w/ Skyhammer Missles 125<br /> Storrm Talon w/ Skyhammer Missles 125<br />  <br /> Thunderfire Cannon 100 w/ pod 35 <br /> Thunderfire Cannon 100 w/ pod 35<br /> 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Centurions  w/ Grav Cannons/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>Amps</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, Omniscope 290<br />  <br /> 1850 on the nose<br />  <br /> I THINK this may work well against tau but I'm unsure against other top tier lists. <br />  <br /> I be would look to counter:<br />  <br /> Tau with missles broadsides/riptides<br /> Eldar Serpent Spam<br /> Wraithwing Necrons<br /> Draigowing<br /> Blob Guard and/or Typhus w/ Zombies<br /> Helldrakes<br /> Corndog Rush/Slaaneshi Horde Spam<br /> Daemon Flying Circus<br /> Tyranids (2 flyrants/2-3 Tervigons, doom in a pod etc.)<br /> whatever <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> finds to be broken: maybe white scars biker rush and/or mech iron hands?<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> pods and/or misslespam /<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Dakka banner abuse/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> rush<br />   <br />  <br /> Basically I could try to manipulate my reserves to either alpha strike everything turn one and then beta strike flyers turn 2. Tiggy would try to get Gate (~75% considering rerolls if I did the math correctly) and/or the spell that gives 5+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span> against shooting attacks and reflects back damage from telekinesis. If I hit early I would switch over to divination or telepathy for better spells as half of telekinesis kinda sucks.<br />  <br /> Idk though it might be better to somehow change the pod load outs to try to coordinate the flyers coming in with the pods on turn 2. My other concern is using barrage/blast weapons (granted they are antihorde not anti <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span>) when I'm trying to pod in.<br /> (Doing something like 2 empty pods turn 1 and a defensive pod maybe 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> with Las/Plasma instead into my backfield).<br />  <br /> Then on turn 2: 3 flyers+sternguard/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> squad with 3+ rerolling (I will avg 4.5 units in if I want that) then trying to GATE the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> forward potentially utilizing scouts teleport homer if the situation called for it. If I'm going 2nd idk about this as reserve rolls could mess me up and not sure what utility scouts will be. With them on the table and forward they will be a huge fire magnet as I won't be presenting many if any targets. (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span> camped behind <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> blocking terrain, prob similarly with Tiggy and Cents and Pods/Flyers off the board.<br /> <br /> Lastly I feel like I'm light on troops/scoring units. I feel like my opponent could focus down on them relatively easy.<br /> <br /> I feel like I have a lot of answers to things though:<br /> <br /> Grav <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>/riptides<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>/Sternguard for antihorde<br /> <br /> Talons for antiflyer/light-med vehicle<br /> <br /> Tri melta for heavy vehicle]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ eltrain728]]></author>
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