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				<title>1850 Ultra marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>-<br /> Tigurius <br /> Elts-<br /> 9 Sternguad w/ 3 combi-meltas, pod <br /> Trps-<br /> 10 Tacticals w/ meltagun, combi-meltas, pod <br /> 10 Tacticals w/ meltagun, combi-meltas, pod <br /> 10 Tacticals W/ plasmagun, combi-plasma, pod <br /> 10 Tacticals W/ plasmagun, combi-plasma, pod <br /> Fst-<br /> 5 Assault w/ 2 flamers pod <br /> 5 Assault w/ 2 flamers pod  <br /> Hvy-<br /> 5 Devastators w/ 3 lascannons pod <br /> 5 Devastators w/ 3 lascannons pod <br /> Fortification-<br /> Aegis Quad gun <br /> <br /> I have 9 pods 5 on first turn, I will bring down the four tactical squads, and sternguard squad with Tigurius on first turn, with the devastators behind the defense line. I will be able to twin link all five squads that come down first turn with the chapter traits, and Tiguris warlord trait. So my questions are is this competitive. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:50:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tear OF The Angel]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Ultra marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you don't get 1st turn, don't expect your devastators to survive. 10 marines will go down in 1 turn when there is nothing else around.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:43:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ smurfORnot]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 Ultra marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If I go second I can counter deploy and keep some things out of range, but it is a risk I'm willing to make. It should be a lot of fun for me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:42:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tear OF The Angel]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Ultra marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Way to many points in tactical marines. 5 twin linked squads sounds amazing but realistically what would you actually kill?<br /> <br /> Probably 1 vehicle from the 2 melta squads (unless you're against Eldar). Maybe a 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> between both the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads (assuming everything in rapid fire range you kill 8.7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> between both squads).<br /> <br /> The Sternguard could kill another tank or put 13.33 AP5 wounds on something.<br /> <br /> Sure you can hurt an army but you're not really alphastriking it. What armies are you expecting to beat with this? Tau will just intercept you as you arrive, Eldar will laugh at your melta, other Marines will shrug off your damage output and then put serious hurt on you back, Nids will assume you are canned food on free delivery. With a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> army you need to be able to put serious damage out when you alphastrike or you need lots of AV13 to shrug off intercept. Just dropping lots of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQs</span> down won't cut it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 23:19:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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