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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys,<br /> <br /> I was flipping through the codex and wanted to try some things. Not exactly fluffy, maybe competitive? Most important part of this list would be how badass it looks and how fun it plays on the board.<br /> <br /> - Captain w/ Artificer Armour, Jump Pack, Relic Blade and Storm Shield<br /> 165 pts <br /> <br /> - 5 man Vanguard Veteran Squad, Melta Bombs, 2 Lightning Claws, Power Fist, Sergeant with Relic Blade and Storm Shield<br /> 235 pts <br /> <br /> - Ironclad Dreadnought with Heavy Flamer and Seismic Hammer<br /> 145 pts <br /> <br /> - 5 man Scout squad, shotguns, missile launcher with flakk, Land Speeder Storm with Multi-Melta<br /> 135 pts <br /> <br /> - 5 man Scout squad, shotguns, missile launcher with flakk, Land Speeder Storm with Heavy Flamer<br /> 125 pts <br /> <br /> - 5 man Scout squad, sniper rifles, heavy bolter, camo cloaks<br /> 77 pts <br /> <br /> - 7 man Assault Marine squad, 2 flamers, Veteran sergeant with power sword and melta bombs<br /> 144 pts <br /> <br /> - 7 man Assault Marine squad, 2 flamers, Veteran Sergeant with power sword and melta bombs<br /> 144 pts <br /> <br /> - Stormtalon Gunship, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HBs</span> replaced by Lascannons<br /> 140 pts <br /> <br /> - Stormraven Gunship, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HBs</span> replaced by Multi-Melta<br /> 200 pts<br /> <br /> total: 1500 pts<br /> <br /> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br /> <br /> The core of the army is the stormraven, stormtalon, vanguard vets with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and ironclad. This is about 885 pts, or more than half my points cost. Literally putting half my eggs in one basket, but if it survives, I'll have 3 stompy units roaming around the battlefield.<br /> <br /> The only thing starting deployed will be the 3 scout squads, with the 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span>'s using scout and their mobility to get to the important bits of the map by turn 1. I'm sure there's quite a bit of bloat in there, like maybe the missile launchers on the scout squads (unless I switch them up to bolters instead of shotties) and maybe the melta bombs on the vanguard vets, considering they come with an ironclad.<br /> <br /> Fluff and awesomeness-looking wise, I kind of like it. It's a low model count army, full of fast moving things that want you dead. Literally one I1 weapon in the whole arsenal, meaning they fight quick and they fight first, which is something I always envisioned the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(757);'>RG</span> and their successors to be all about. I'm no expert on the lore though.<br /> <br /> Honestly the biggest thing I'm lacking I think is anti-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(652);'>TEQ</span>, but I don't know how to solve that. Maybe free up 30 points somewhere (melta bombs?) and replace the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s Relic Blade with the Burning Blade?<br /> <br /> Thoughts? Critiques? Nasty things to say about my mother? I'd be grateful. Thanks!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I decided to modify it to handle <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(652);'>TEQ</span> a bit better, but I don't really know if I did a good job.<br /> <br />  - Captain with a relic weapon that counts as the Burning Blade, Storm Shield, Jump Pack and Artificer Armor<br /> 195 pts<br /> <br />  - 5 Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, 2 Lightning Claws, a Powerfist, and a Sergeant with a Relic Blade and Storm Shield<br /> 200 pts<br /> <br />  - Ironclad Dreadnought with Heavy Flamer<br /> 145 pts<br /> <br />  - 5 Scout Marines with boltguns, a missile launcher, a sergeant with a power axe and a land speeder storm with a multi-melta<br /> 140 pts<br /> <br /> - 5 Scout Marines with boltguns, a missile launcher, a sergeant with a power axe and a land speeder storm with a heavy flamer<br /> 130 pts<br /> <br />  - 6 Scout Marines with Sniper Rifles, Camo Cloaks and a Heavy Bolter with Hellfire Rounds<br /> 98 pts<br /> <br />  - Stormtalon Gunship with Twin-Linked Lascannon<br /> 140 pts<br /> <br />  - 8 Assault Marines with 2 flamers, a Veteran Sergeant with a Power Axe, Melta Bomb and Combat Shield<br /> 181 pts<br /> <br />  - Stormraven Gunship with Twin-Linked Multi-Melta<br /> 200 pts<br /> <br />  - Hunter<br /> 70 pts<br /> <br /> total: 1498 pts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:04:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tuckles]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Raven Guard, playing around with the codex</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like your second list a lot. My only concern would be the staying power of your troops. With only scouts you could find yourself struggling to control objectives against a determined opponent smart enough to ignore the scary parts of this list when it counts.<br /> <br /> I would try to reserve the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> scouts and hide them until turn 5. That would mean you might not want to pay for the missile launcher.<br /> <br /> I think it can still work, just be aware of those who might exploit this potential weakness.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 23:33:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BlueRift]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reply!<br /> <br /> What if I took out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span> and used the points to buff up the footslogging sniper squad?<br /> <br /> Also, I was a little iffy about the Storntalon, being an AV11 vehicle with only 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HPs</span> and costing upwards of 100 points, I thought it might be a little pricey, so I took it off and replaced it with a 5 man bike squad with 2 grav guns and a sergeant with a combi-grav and power axe. This left me with a deficit of 20 points, so I had to get rid of the artificer armor on my Captain.<br /> <br /> You think that's a good idea?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:21:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tuckles]]></author>
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