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				<description><![CDATA[ My first list with the new codex and I am still trying to find out what will work with the Black Templars.  I have an idea of swapping out the terminators for some honor guard, but assault terminators have never proven me wrong.  I know I dumped a lot of points into my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> so we will see how he turns out.  And yes, there is no Emperor's Champion.  So let me know what you think!<br /> <br /> <br /> +++Crusade Fleet Gorgon+++<br /> <br /> +++1999 Points+++<br /> <br /> +++Head Quarters+++<br /> <br /> Marshal Gorgon -  230 Points<br /> Wargear:  Relic Blade, The Shield Eternal, Artificer Armor and melta bombs.  <br /> Chapter Tactics:  Black Templars<br /> (Chapter Master)<br /> <br /> +++Elites+++<br /> <br /> Marshal's Household -  255 Points<br /> Assault Terminators x3 with Pair of Lighting Claws<br /> Assault Terminators x2 with Storm Shield and Thunder hammer<br /> Castellan with Storm Shield and Thunder Hammer<br /> Transport:  Land Raider Crusader -  260 Points<br /> Equipment: Multi-melta <br /> <br /> +++Troops+++<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  205 Points<br /> Initiates x7 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Axe<br /> Neophyte x1 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  213 Points<br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Fist<br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> Transport: Rhino<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  213 Points<br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Fist<br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> Transport: Rhino<br /> <br /> <br /> +++Fast Attack+++<br /> <br /> Land Speeder Typhoon - 75 Points<br /> <br /> Land Speeder Typhoon - 75 Points<br /> <br /> +++Heavy Support+++<br /> <br /> Vindicator- 135 Points<br /> Equipment: Siege Shield<br /> <br /> Vindicator- 135 Points<br /> Equipment: Siege Shield<br /> <br /> Stormraven Gunship - 200 Points<br /> Equipment: Twin-linked Assault Cannons, Twin-linked Multi-melta<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sounds good to me! Can't really think how to improve this, so have a sound tactical game and you should be doing well.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:58:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ChaosCrusader]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't think there is anything I would change in this list!<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:36:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SuperBerzerker12]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks guys that really gives me hope I made a solid list.  Not a whole lot has changed for me going from C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> to C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, so we will see when it comes time to put them on the table.  Only thing I am worried about is the fact the units wont hit as hard as they did in C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span>.  No more rage, but all the other goodies make up for that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:51:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Black Templars for 2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think the points you have listed for your Rhino squads are off.  They look to be 228 points each to me:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Crusader Squad - 213 Points <br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon <br /> Initiate with Melta-gun <br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Fist <br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon <br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs <br /> Transport: Rhino</div></blockquote><br /> Breaking this down:<br /> <br /> 7 Initiates + 3 Neophytes = 128 Points<br /> Meltagun, Power Fist, Power Sword, Melta Bombs, Sword Brother Upgrade = 65 points.<br /> Add on the Rhino and we get a total of 228 points.<br /> <br /> Am I missing something?  Or did you forget to add in the Power Sword cost?<br /> <br /> *Edit*<br /> Also, I'd probably consider taking a Power Axe instead of the power fist in these squads, just so you get two attacks from that model when you aren't charging.  <br /> <br /> *Edit 2*<br /> I was building out some crusader squads of my own and settled on this as my preferred squad build.  It comes out to 213 exactly:<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad (213 Pts)<br /> 7x Initiates<br />  - 5x Bolt Pistol & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br />  - Meltagun<br />  - Power Axe<br />  - Sword Brother w/ Power Sword<br /> 3x Neophytes<br />  - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> Rhino]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:46:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Believer]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Black Templars for 2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/552208/6050460.page"><b>Believer wrote:</b></a><br/>I think the points you have listed for your Rhino squads are off.  They look to be 228 points each to me:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Crusader Squad - 213 Points <br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon <br /> Initiate with Melta-gun <br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Fist <br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon <br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs <br /> Transport: Rhino</div></blockquote><br /> Breaking this down:<br /> <br /> 7 Initiates + 3 Neophytes = 128 Points<br /> Meltagun, Power Fist, Power Sword, Melta Bombs, Sword Brother Upgrade = 65 points.<br /> Add on the Rhino and we get a total of 228 points.<br /> <br /> Am I missing something?  Or did you forget to add in the Power Sword cost?<br /> <br /> *Edit*<br /> Also, I'd probably consider taking a Power Axe instead of the power fist in these squads, just so you get two attacks from that model when you aren't charging.  <br /> <br /> *Edit 2*<br /> I was building out some crusader squads of my own and settled on this as my preferred squad build.  It comes out to 213 exactly:<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad (213 Pts)<br /> 7x Initiates<br />  - 5x Bolt Pistol & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br />  - Meltagun<br />  - Power Axe<br />  - Sword Brother w/ Power Sword<br /> 3x Neophytes<br />  - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> Rhino</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yup I think you are right, my math was a bit off!  Thanks for letting me know!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:33:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Got any room for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>? I hear those are good these days. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ultimentra]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well I made some quick changes to the list to bring it up to 1999 again.<br /> <br /> <br /> +++Head Quarters+++<br /> Marshal Gorgon -  225 Points<br /> Wargear:  Relic Blade, The Shield Eternal, Artificer Armor.  <br /> Chapter Tactics:  Black Templars<br /> (Chapter Master)<br /> <br /> +++Elites+++<br /> <br /> Marshal's Household -  255 Points<br /> Assault Terminators x3 with Pair of Lighting Claws<br /> Assault Terminators x2 with Storm Shield and Thunder hammer<br /> Castellan with Storm Shield and Thunder Hammer<br /> Transport:  Land Raider Crusader -  260 Points<br /> Equipment: Multi-melta <br /> <br /> +++Troops+++<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  195 Points<br /> Initiates x7 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Axe<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  232 Points<br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Axe<br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> Transport: Rhino<br /> <br /> Crusader Squad  -  232 Points<br /> Initiates x4 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Initiate with Melta-gun<br /> Initiate with Bolt Pistol, Power Axe<br /> Neophyte x3 with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon<br /> Sword Brother with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, melta bombs<br /> Transport: Rhino<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> +++Fast Attack+++<br /> <br /> Land Speeder Typhoon - 75 Points<br /> <br /> Land Speeder Typhoon - 75 Points<br /> <br /> +++Heavy Support+++<br /> <br /> Vindicator- 125 Points<br /> <br /> Vindicator- 125 Points<br /> <br /> Stormraven Gunship - 200 Points<br /> Equipment: Twin-linked Assault Cannons, Twin-linked Multi-melta<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ EmperorsChampion]]></author>
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