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				<description><![CDATA[ imperial fists/crimson fists<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span><br /> <br /> -lysabder-230<br /> -pedro-185<br /> <br /> elites<br /> -terminator squad,chain fist x1,assault cannon, x4 storm bolters-225<br /> -assault terminators,3 lighting claws,2 storm shields-210<br /> -dread,assult cannon-120<br /> <br /> troops<br /> <br /> -tactical squad-missile launcher,melta gun,165<br /> -tactical squad-missile launcher,melta gun,165<br /> -tactical squad-heavy bolter,combi gav,melta gun-165<br /> -tactical squad-heavy bolter,combi gav,melta gun-165<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> heavy support<br /> <br /> -devastator squad,x1 lascannons,missile launcher,x2 plasma cannon-1407<br /> -centurion devastator squad,x2 missile launchers,x1 hurricane.bolters,x2 heavy bolters,x1 lascannon,omniscope-220<br /> <br /> 2000<br /> <br /> tactical squads,dread and Pedro, crimson fists<br /> <br /> centurions,devastators.both terminators and lysabder as imperial fists  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 16:51:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ nickfrei1]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/552427/6052597.page"><b>nickfrei1 wrote:</b></a><br/>imperial fists/crimson fists<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span><br /> <br /> -lysabder-230<br /> -pedro-185<br /> <br /> elites<br /> -terminator squad,chain fist x1,assault cannon, x4 storm bolters-225<br /> -assault terminators,3 lighting claws,2 storm shields-210<br /> -dread,assult cannon-120<br /> <br /> troops<br /> <br /> -tactical squad-missile launcher,melta gun,165<br /> -tactical squad-missile launcher,melta gun,165<br /> -tactical squad-heavy bolter,combi gav,melta gun-165<br /> -tactical squad-heavy bolter,combi gav,melta gun-165<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> heavy support<br /> <br /> -devastator squad,x1 lascannons,missile launcher,x2 plasma cannon-1407<br /> -centurion devastator squad,x2 missile launchers,x1 hurricane.bolters,x2 heavy bolters,x1 lascannon,omniscope-220<br /> <br /> 2000<br /> <br /> tactical squads,dread and Pedro, crimson fists<br /> <br /> centurions,devastators.both terminators and lysabder as imperial fists  <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hi, iam jack,<br />                            iam not sure what lysabder is.. i presume you ment Captain Lysander?<br /> <br /> it looks like a pretty strong gun line to me.]<br /> <br /> not sure how much staying power you have tho, or what your local meta is like..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:25:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jackblg]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ To be honest it all looks a bit of a mess. There's no obvious reason to include Pedro and not a single Sternguard model. Lysander is a load of points that could be spent on a better generic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span>.<br /> <br /> It looks like its trying to be a gunline but has loads of points in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> units walking across the field (or worse deepstriking).<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads are all over the place and no fortification to hide in.<br /> <br /> Devastators have no idea what they want to be shooting at. Centurions likewise, I know split fire helps but iif you pass an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> test.<br /> <br /> No <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>. Little <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>, not much range. I honestly think you should start again get an idea what you want the list to do as a whole. Then selects units that help that central idea with each unit having a clear purpose.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:17:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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