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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm just wondering if this might be concideted a cheese list? <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Big Mel with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>kff</span> to ride in battlewagon <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 29 shoota boys <br />  1 nob with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 29 shoota boys<br />  1 nob with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> Elite<br /> 10 lootas Behind a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> with the lascannon<br /> <br /> 10 lootas behind a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> with the lascannon<br /> <br /> 5 meganobz inside a battlewagon with deffrolla and 2 big shootas<br /> <br />  5 meganobz inside a battlewagon with deffrolla and 2 big shootas<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> will ride in one of those battlewagon<br /> <br /> Fast<br /> 2 deffkoptas with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> RL<br /> <br /> 2 deffkoptas with to RL<br /> <br /> Dakkajet with 3 super shoot a and flyer ace<br /> <br /> I've played it twice already and won both by the 4th round. Once <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and space wolves<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> And question about taking a mek with my lootas begind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span>. can he or will he ever be able to fix the lascannon? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Orks and cheese cannot be in the same sentence right now. They are currently hard up for a new update and there are only a few builds that keep them going.<br /> Mek can't 'fix' the lascannon as it cannot fix wounds. Only Immobilized vehicles and weapon destroyed results on vehicles. Your Mek needs to be in the BW for the 5+ cover save bubble. It is it's only purpose.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not seeing anything that strikes me as cheesy. Its pretty much impossible to do cheese with Orks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:40:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah my big mek is in the battlewagon. Think the space wolf player called it cheese because of the 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> giving my lootas a 3+ cover save. I honestly didn't think a mek  could fix it but was just hopeful cause of the wording "weapon destroyed"]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:01:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mattman1977]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's not cheesy. <br /> <br /> It is however illegal. <br /> <br /> You can't have two fortifications and you can't have four elites. <br /> <br /> And why would two aegis lines give you a 3+ cover save?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:07:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I guess I should of added this is a 2000 pt list. And at 2000 pt the double force organization chart comes into play doubling each choice. Example up to 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>'s 12 troops 6 fast 6 elite and a additional fortification. Fortification's give a 3+ cover save as per the rulebook. 2+ if they go to ground ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:38:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mattman1977]]></author>
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				<title>Re:is this a cheese list?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your army would still be illegal because you have to have 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and 4 troops when you use the dual force organization.<br /> <br /> On topic of cheesy, I dont believe so, I run a similar 1850 list and have never had any complaints.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:01:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shamanlord1961]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> gives 4+ cover and 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(315);'>GTG</span> as per rule book. List is illegal as stated above. Cheesy no, illegal yes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:15:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ skycapt44]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/552640/6055581.page"><b>mattman1977 wrote:</b></a><br/>I guess I should of added this is a 2000 pt list. And at 2000 pt the double force organization chart comes into play doubling each choice. Example up to 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>'s 12 troops 6 fast 6 elite and a additional fortification. Fortification's give a 3+ cover save as per the rulebook. 2+ if they go to ground </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> As noted by Shamanlord and skycapt, it's still an illegal list. You need another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and two more Troops. <br /> <br /> That it's a 2k list is really surprising, though. By looking at it I thought it would be somewhere around 1500. <br /> <br /> It's far from a cheesy list, even with the illegal choices, and I'd go so far as to say it's a pretty bad list. I can't imagine what the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> players are fielding that wouldn't steamroll you. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:27:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well damn I completely over looked that. So any suggestions to make this legal?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:28:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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