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Im also considering making the commander just a shield commander: Iridium, shield gen, stim injector, etc. cause, why not!?
HQ
Shadowsun (goes with vespid) 135
Commander, iridium armor, neuroweb jammer, onager gauntlet, puretide chip, stim injector, Velocity tracker, x2 fusion gun 197

Troops
x10 kroot, hound 65
x10 kroot, hound 65
x10 kroot, hound 65

Fast Attack
x12 vespid, strain leader (deep strike with shadowsun) 226
x5 piranhas, 1 w/ sensor spines 205


Heavy Support
x3 Broadsides, x3 rail rifles, x3 plasma rifles, x3 early warning override 225
x9 sniper drones, x1 marksmen 148
x9 sniper drones, x1 marksmen 148

TOTAL: 1479

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First, Shadowsun can't keep up with Vespids because jump=/=jet pack. I'd drop her all together and add marksmen to the sniper teams. Also, the HRR broadsides don't need the plasma to be an intentionally sub-optimal choice as everyone raves about HYMPs. I personally like them but save the points and stick with the SMS.

If you want to do something unusual but still (possibly) effective, make the commander a solo-close quarters guy. Everyone gives them either buff-mander or the MP-toting-drone-controlling type. Go for a CIB, FB, Iridium, shield, Stim Injector, Onager Gauntlet and go to town. Sure he might go out in a balze of glory after a determined round of shooting, but at least they'll have to be pretty determined to take him out. And he brings the pain.

Depending on points, be sure to use FB on your Piranha's if you actually want any Anti-tank.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063341.page GMT
I think I am going to do that for the commander, I had run that a while back, it was loads of fun...I will do it again hahahaah


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Oh, as well, the plasma rifles on the broadsides were there mainly for one reason, cause I had never tried it. and, cause I modeled it like the predator's shoudler weapon hahahaha]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063373.page GMT
First I would like to say that PR on Broadsides is fine. Depending on the list you might want to use the Broadsides to protect your rear. However with your build, it's probably not important.

I don't like the thought of a solo Commander. First off all because I think that Sniper Drones and Vespid Stingwings both need an HQ in order to be viable. So you won't have the HQ slots for it. Secondly if you want a close combat Commander you got to use the Fusion Blades!

For the Vespids I think you have to take a Independent Character with them. You can twin link their guns to make it so that their guns aren't totally useless. You can also put Shadowsun with them for the boosted defense. In the movement phase all you have to do is play leapfrog. Shadowsun starts out in the front and moves 6" while the Vespids move 12" past her. Then in the assault phase Shadowsun jumps back to the front of the pack. Just make sure to maintain unit coherency.

The biggest suggestion I have is to take an Ethereal. Giving the Sniper Drones an extra shot at 24" range is huge. Not to mention the possibility of giving stubborn to your Vespids.

I would just like to add that you should probably replace your Piranhas with a Flyer. This will give you some anti-air while helping you take out small vehicles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063723.page GMT
As well, with shadowsun in the vespid unit, that movement idea was my plan, to have her essentially leapfrog with the group after landing.

Tau fliers are pretty much gak, so I wont be taking them, I have considered an aegis and quadgun for one of the sniper marksmen to operate.

Piranhas are incredible, having used them before, 5 is not only very hard to deal with, their volume of fire is fantastic, I have considered giving them fusion but I am not sure it is worth the points. They are a crazy cheap fairly tough fast vehicle squadron that essentially gives you a free drone squadron.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063934.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553095/6063934.page GMT

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