http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k a try and we've got models for two 500 point lists. One SM and one CSM. Here are the two lists. Does anyone have any recommendations for where to next with them as we expand?

Space Marines: Red Scorpions Chapter
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HQ:
Captain (combi-plasma, power sword)

Command Squad
Apothecary
Veteran (plasma gun) x 2
Veteran (combi-plasma) x 2

Troops:
Tactical Squad (5 man) (two identical squads)
Apothecary
Plasma Cannon

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Chaos Space Marines: Angels of Ecstasy
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HQ:
Chaos Lord (lightning claw)
VotLW
MoS

Troops:
Chaos Marines (5 man) (two identical squads)
Aspiring Champion (power sword)
Chaos Marine (flamer, cc weapon)
Chaos Marine (bolter, cc weapon) x 3
VotLW
MoS

Noise Marines
Noise Champion (power sword, doom siren)
Noise Marine (blast master) *see faq
Noise Marine (sonic blaster) x 3

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Ok, now that we have that out of the way, real advice. I would avoid the drake for now as its friendly and low points games. Some bikes/spawn/raptors would make a fine addition to your CSM army. Each has their +/- but they all add quick units that I think CSM really need on the board. In terms of most for your money I believe you get more raptors for the least $ (5 for 30ish, vs 3 for 40 for bikers, and 2 for 40 for spawns) but that isn't to say they are the best.

Sorry no real advice for the SM, although for parody maybe the equivalents for SM, but bear in mind that because any 2 units are the equivalent doesn't mean they are equal. CSM Termies are good for suicide runs at 3 guys, versus a SM Termies which might have different minimum squads and options.

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*Troops*:
more NM
Cultists as objective holders


Heavy (choices):
vs HV- choose one
*4 Havocs with lascannons (in the back shooting stuff- need more havocs as meat shields=cheapest choice for lascannons)*

Obliterators (squads of 3 or one-give MoN)

*Tri-las Predator*

vs LV
4 Havocs with autocannons
Forgefiend


HQ:
*Sorcerers*
high games= kitted out daemon prince
*kiitt out your lord- give him BBoS*

Elites:
Termies for CC
PM for tough anti- LV/ troops

Fast:
Bikes with MoN
*HELL TURKEY! (baleflamer= anti-air, anti LV, anti infantry)*


side note- I'd convert your CSM to NM

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