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				<description><![CDATA[ Here is the bracket as it sits.  There was a blind draw for the matchups.  The white scars, imperial fists, and salamanders have stand in's for their chapter masters as they were not cool enough to end up in game.  The names will not be changed though.  The iron hands and blood ravens forfit as they dont even have a cool enough captain to stand in.  In their lameness they just loose. ***** LATE ADDITION SHRIKE JUST JOINED REPRESENTING THE RAVEN GUARD*****<br /> <br /> How this will work<br /> <br /> A roll off will decide who gets to charge first.  The winner will get to shoot then assault distance of 6 needed.  If the assault fails then the other will have the same oppertunity.  If sucessful it will be fought like a standard challange.  First character to kill their opponet 3 times alternating who gets first charge will win the round.  All special rules apply and each character will use everything they can to try to win and each round those 1 time use items will be reset.  Psykers are allowed their abilities but will be used as normal also characters will be given the chance to deny the witch.<br /> <br /> Here is the bracket at the begining.  <br /> <br /> <a href="http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/fe184094dd325" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/fe184094dd325</a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> ROUND 1<br /> <br /> Pedro vs Calgar<br /> Pedro wins the roll off<br /> <br /> Round 1<br /> Pedro shoots and causes 1 wound  <br /> Charge successful<br /> Overwatch failed to wound<br /> Pedro: no wounds in combat<br /> Calgar: 1 unsaved wound causing instant death<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Calgar no shooting wounds<br /> Overwatch failed <br /> Charge success<br /> Calgar 3 wounds  instant death<br /> Pedro causes 2 wounds but no instant death due to calgar eternal warrior.  Calgar wins<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Pedro shooting fails<br /> Overwatch fails<br /> Charge failed<br /> Calgar shooting causes 1 wound<br /> Pedro overwatch fails<br /> Calgar charge success<br /> Calgar does no wounds in combat<br /> Pedro  2 wounds all saved<br /> New round<br /> Calgar does 2 wounds both saved<br /> Pedro Wiffed 4 missed hits<br /> New round<br /> Calgar WIFFS 5 missed hits<br /> Pedro causes 1 wound<br /> New round each have 3 wounds left<br /> Calgar causes 1 wound and instant death<br /> Pedro does no wounds<br /> Calgar wins<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Calgar wins.  Cantor goes down like a punk losing 3 straight rounds</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <b>Halbrecht vs moloc</b><br /> <br /> Moloc wins roll off and charges first<br /> <br /> Round 1<br /> Moloc shoots, wounds, saved…<br /> Overwatch fails<br /> Charge success<br /> Moloc fails to wound<br /> Halbrecht rolls 4 ONES LOLOL<br /> Next round<br /> Moloc Misses everything<br /> Halbrecht causes no wounds<br /> Next round<br /> Moloc causes 1 wound<br /> Halbrecht no wounds<br /> Next round moloc1 Halbrecht0<br /> Moloc causes 1 wound<br /> Halbrecht 2 wounds BOTH saved<br /> Next round moloc 2 Halbrecht 0<br /> Moloc 1 wound<br /> Halbrecht no wounds<br /> Next round moloc 3 halbrecht 0<br /> Moloc No wounds<br /> Halbrecht No wounds<br /> Next round moloc 3 halbrecht 0<br /> Moloc 1 wound finishing Halbrecht<br /> Halbrecht No wounds<br /> <br /> WINNER MOLOC<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Halbrecht shoots, wounds, saved<br /> Overwatch fails<br /> Charge success<br /> Halbrecht +d3 attacks(3) With 8 attacks fails to get one unsaved wound<br /> Moloc 1 wound<br /> Next round<br /> Halbrecht no wounds<br /> Moloc WIFFED ALL 1’s<br /> Next round <br /> Halbrecht 1 Wound<br /> Moloc no wounds<br /> Next round 1-1<br /> Moloc 1 wound<br /> Halbrecht no wounds<br /> Next round moloc 2-1<br /> Halbrecht 1 wound<br /> Moloc 1 wound<br /> Next round moloc 3-2<br /> Moloc 2 wounds finishing Halbrecht<br /> Halbrecht no wounds<br /> <br /> Winner Moloc<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Moloc Hits and wounds with his shooting causing instant death to Halbrecht <br /> <br /> Winner Moloc<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Winner MOLOC in an utterly BORING battle</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll get you that info you asked for later. I need my sleep.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ GO MOLOC GO!!!!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ cant waait to see how this turns out.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok guys reason for the stall is simply because I dont have the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> book and need the rules for lysander, vulkan, and khan(all stand in's for their chapter master).  SO anyone willing to help that would be appreciated BUT pm me the rules DO NOT post them here.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> New addition.  Shrike just joined the fight representing the raven guard]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6075232.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/>Ok guys reason for the stall is simply because I dont have the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> book and need the rules for lysander, vulkan, and khan(all stand in's for their chapter master).  SO anyone willing to help that would be appreciated BUT pm me the rules DO NOT post them here.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> New addition.  Shrike just joined the fight representing the raven guard</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah I knew I was forgetting a chapter.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;">FIRST ROUND RESULTS</span><br /> <br /> <a href="http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/fe184094dd325" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/fe184094dd325</a><br /> <br /> The difference maker seemed to be Eternal warrior and not having an ap2 weapon.  Results may have been different if some of those things changed.<br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Lysander VS Azrael<br /> Round 1<br /> Azrael Wins the roll off and will charge first<br /> Azrael shoots with his combi plasma 2 hits 1 wound unsaved, BLIND TEST FAILED ROLLED A 6<br /> Lysander is blind<br /> Charge success No overwatch<br /> First fight<br /> Azrael Causes 1 wound on 5 hits <br /> Lysander causes 1 unsaved wound inflicting instant death<br /> Lysander wins<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Lysander charge success overwatch fails<br /> First fight<br /> Azrael no wounds<br /> Lysander 1 wound instant death Lysander wins<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Shooting azrael causes 1 wound charge fails no overwatch Lysander blinded<br /> Lysander charge success, Overwatch fails<br /> Azrael no wounds<br /> Lysander 1 wound instant death Lysander wins<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">LYSANDER WINS IN 3.</span><br /> <br /> <br /> Dante Vs Vulkan<br /> Dante wins the roll off and will charge first<br /> Shooting fails and so does the charge<br /> Vulkan shooting fails charge succeeds over watch hits and wounds but saved<br /> Vulkan No wounds delt<br /> Dante causes 3 wounds all saves failed <br /> DANTE WINS<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Valkan shooting fails overwatch fails<br /> Charge goes off<br /> Valkan no wounds delt<br /> Dante causes 1 unsaved wound.  <br /> Dante Hit and run succeeds dante charges next<br /> Second fight<br /> Dante shooting fails and so does overwatch<br /> Charge succeeds Hammer of wrath wound saved<br /> Valkan No wounds<br /> Dante Causes 1 wound Killing Valkan<br /> DANTE WINS<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Dante shoots hits, wounds, UNSAVED.  KILLING VALKAN for instant death<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">DANTE WINS THE FIGHT IN 3 ROUNDS</span><br /> <br /> LOGAN VS KHAN<br /> Logan wins the roll off and will charge first<br /> Round 1<br /> Shooting fails so does overwatch<br /> Charge succeeds<br /> Khan fails to wound<br /> Logan wounds 4 times and khan saves ALL 4<br /> Khan hit and run succeeds khan charges next<br /> Next round<br /> Khan shoots and causes 1 wound overwatch causes 1 wound as well<br /> Khan fails the charge Logans charge succeeds<br /> Khan deals 1 wound<br /> Logan Causes 2 wounds<br /> Logan has 2 remaining and Khan 1<br /> Khan causes no wounds<br /> Logan causes the final wound to Khan<br /> LOGAN WINS<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Khan shoots no wounds over watch fails<br /> Khan charges does d3 hammer of wrath(3) 3 wounds all 3 saved<br /> Khan causes 1 unsaved wound<br /> Logan perfered enemy this round.  Causes 3 unsaved wounds <br /> LOGAN WINS<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Logan shooting fails so does overwatch<br /> Charge goes off<br /> Khan deals no wounds<br /> Logan scores 6 wounds and Khan saves 4<br /> Khan Hit and run succeeds <br /> Next round<br /> Khan shoots and causes 1 wound overwatch fails<br /> Khans charge fails.<br /> Shooting yields no results and logans charge succeeds<br /> Khan no wounds caused<br /> Logan causes 2 wounds finishing Khan<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">LOGAN GRIMNAR WINS IN 3 ROUNDS</span><br /> <br /> <br /> Culln VS SHRIKE<br /> Culln wins the roll off and charges first<br /> Round 1<br /> Culln charge fails so does shooting and overwatch<br /> Shrike charges succeeds.  Shooting and overwatch both fail.  Hammer of wrath fails as well.<br /> Shrike causes 1 unsaved wound<br /> Culln causes no wounds<br /> Next round<br /> Shrike causes 2 wounds finishing Culln<br /> Culln deals 3 wounds and shrike saves 2 <br /> SHRIKE WINS<br /> <br /> Round 2<br /> Shrike charges shooting fails overwatch fails charge goes off<br /> Shrike causes 1 unsaved wound and nothing from hammer of wrath<br /> Culln causes 2 unsaved wounds<br /> Next round <br /> Shrike again causes 1 unsaved wound<br /> Culln causes 2 unsaved wounds finishing shrike<br /> CULLN WINS<br /> <br /> Round 3<br /> Culln wounds once on shooting overwatch fails charge goes off<br /> Culln does another wound in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span><br /> Shrike does 1 wound<br /> Next round<br /> Shrike does another wound in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span><br /> Culln hits 3 times, wounds 3 times SHRIKE SAVES 3 TIMES<br /> Next round<br /> Shrike deals no wounds<br /> Culln deals 1 wound finishing shrike<br /> CULLN WINS<br /> <br /> Round 4<br /> <br /> Shrike shoots and causes a wound overwatch fails<br /> Charge succeeds hammer of wrath causes another wound<br /> Shrike causes 1 wound finishing culln.<br /> Shrike WINS<br /> <br /> Round 5<br /> Culln shoots causes one wound overwatch fails <br /> Culln charges<br /> Culln causes 2 wounds killing shrike<br /> Shrike causes no wounds<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">CULLN WINS IN 5 ROUNDS.  BEST FIGHT OF THE FIRST ROUND</span>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My money is on lord macragge. Are you using chapter tactics?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm really hoping Logan and Draigo win their next match.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im predicting Draigo VS Logan in the finals.  Draigo with being a psyker and having a storm shield and t5(no instant death dealt by calgar) should be able to tank calgar.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really hope so. I just want to see Moloc and Dante taken down, and I believe Draigo and Logan are just  the two craziest mofos to do it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/70787d8aee3410d0a7c88efd7b47763e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6076502.page"><b>Largeblastmarker wrote:</b></a><br/>My money is on lord macragge. Are you using chapter tactics?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> YES I <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> FACTORING ALL CHAPTER TACTICS.<br /> <br /> I also put khan on his bike, used dantes hit and run, ect.  I am playing them each in a way to maximize their effectiveness.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a3fae5798e2295f4eb6d8384a609c52d.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6076521.page"><b>Happyjew wrote:</b></a><br/>I really hope so. I just want to see Moloc and Dante taken down, and I believe Draigo and Logan are just  the two craziest mofos to do it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> As do I <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Draigo is also <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> but he has no ap2 weapon so calgar will get his full save. Haha.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Logan should take the whole thing pretty easily. He hits all enemies on a 3+, even those with higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>. He should have preferred enemy every round (which means he's hitting with ~78% of his attacks and wounding with ~97%).<br /> 7 attacks the first time he swings, even if he's not charging (Living Legend + Counterattack).<br /> 2+ armor, Strength 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 weapon, Eternal Warrior. He might be somewhat overcosted, but he's still pretty boss in a 1-on-1 fight.<br /> <br /> Funny thing is...you can make a Wolf Lord that's almost strictly better for even cheaper. 3++ invul, Toughness 5, Strength 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 attacks, Hammer of Wrath, and Fleet. The only thing missing is Pref. Enemy.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This is why we are rolling the dice to find out.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know you said that you were factoring all chapter tactics, but the battle with Helbrecht doesn't seem to reflect it. Unless, for some reason you are not counting them as in a challenge, thus rendering his entire skillset worthless. I don't know Moloc all that well, so have no idea what he was up against, but rerolling all hits in close combat, and rending in these kind of battles should at least make him do something. Not win, but.. something =P]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a3fae5798e2295f4eb6d8384a609c52d.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6076521.page"><b>Happyjew wrote:</b></a><br/>I really hope so. I just want to see Moloc and Dante taken down, and I believe Draigo and Logan are just  the two craziest mofos to do it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If Dante does get past Darigo he won't get past Calgar or Lysander so I wouldn't worry about it too much.<br /> <br /> Draigo is good, but Dante will get his 2+ against him and Draigo will need to use hie 3++. However Draigo will probably wound on 2s if he uses hammerhand and could <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> with his force sword if Dante fails a save. This basically all comes down to how many 2+ saves can Dante make.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You're using some weird rules for Helbrecht. It's not the old rules, because he didn't get D3 attacks when charged, but it's not the new rules either as he can only get 8 attacks on the charge if he's with an Honour Guard or Command Squad with banner.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:20:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ awesome thread. I thought Vulkan had eternal warrior though for some reason.<br /> Gabriel Seth is gonna get owned hard though. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span><br /> Lysander vs Marneus is gonna be good though. I think Lysander will win eventually only because of the 3++.<br /> Interesting how the initial line ups work out.<br /> I wonder if they had been different if some people would be through.<br /> <br /> Also would be awesome with other factions as well like swarmlord, Abbadon, eldar phoenix lords, etc.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:43:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What's good with round two my friend?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:42:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b31d2dde4c62aead87d98d77b7178db4.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6077962.page"><b>bigboss1o1 wrote:</b></a><br/>What's good with round two my friend?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'll do it this afternoon during naptime.  It takes a long ass time these guys are tanks.  Also making sure I'm getting all the rules correct is a big part.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm putting my money on Calgar too. The extra wounds and attacks over Lysander and Grimnar as well as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 8, AP2 and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> makes him best as an All-Rounder and his Chapter Tactics are great.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:43:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The biggest issue is all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> are on the same side of the bracket, so those fights are just going to be slugfests since one of the goto abilities of those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> characters is they also cause <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> (high S for Calgar and Lysander, force weapon for Draigo) and unfortunately Draigo is the only one without an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 weapon.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:01:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It will be funny If calgar just drops his Orbital bombardment and gets a first round kill on someone.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:55:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ RIGGED You can tell because Calgar survived without nearly dying, and everyone knows that's his preferred tactic.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, whoever wins of Calgar and Lysander is headed to the finals, and same thing with Grimnar and Moloc.  No <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> on Dante means he's gone to either Calgar and Lysander, and Draigo's sword being AP3 means he might as well be trying to kill Calgar and Lysander with a wet noodle.<br /> <br /> I saw some rules for Culln, and I'm not sure if they're outdated or not, but he had <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>, so that helps him.  Problem is he only had 3 wounds and a relic blade, which would be AP3, while he would be up against two guys in termie armor.  Again, basically a wet noodle.<br /> <br /> Lysander should put up a good fight.  Same number of wounds as Calgar, better invuln save, but 2 fewer attacks, since Lysander only has 3 base and doesn't get another one for a matched pair.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Sep 2013 03:45:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Since I seem to have been forgotten, I'll try again: what rules did you use for Helbrecht?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:49:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cant wait to see how the second round turns out.<br /> .]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:41:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When does round 2 go down?<br /> <br /> I have a bowl of popcorn and a 12-pack.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:35:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I get this is for fun, but what exactly constitutes the truthfulness of this "battle royale", I mean I could just make up a bunch of random results and say that "Eldrad beats Swarmlord to become the BEST <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> EVER!".<br /> <br /> The point I'm getting at is this thread seems to be spawned by an argument in another thread and likely will be used as fodder for future arguments so maybe a filming of the "battle" or "battles" from here on out will be beneficial to avoid any allegations of "fixing"<br /> <br /> (IE if Dante and Moloc come to blows no-one will ever freaking believe who the winner is unless its filmed, hell even after that people will continue to claim one is better than the other because of his weapons or fighting style or hair do or recipe for Tyranid Ribs)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6083175.page"><b>2x210 wrote:</b></a><br/>I get this is for fun, but what exactly constitutes the truthfulness of this "battle royale", I mean I could just make up a bunch of random results and say that "Eldrad beats Swarmlord to become the BEST <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> EVER!".<br /> <br /> The point I'm getting at is this thread seems to be spawned by an argument in another thread and likely will be used as fodder for future arguments so maybe a filming of the "battle" or "battles" from here on out will be beneficial to avoid any allegations of "fixing"<br /> <br /> (IE if Dante and Moloc come to blows no-one will ever freaking believe who the winner is unless its filmed, hell even after that people will continue to claim one is better than the other because of his weapons or fighting style or hair do or recipe for Tyranid Ribs)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Don't knock the SoBs recipe for Thornback Ribs. They are tasty with a hint of Napalm.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6083175.page"><b>2x210 wrote:</b></a><br/>I get this is for fun, but what exactly constitutes the truthfulness of this "battle royale", I mean I could just make up a bunch of random results and say that "Eldrad beats Swarmlord to become the BEST <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> EVER!".<br /> <br /> The point I'm getting at is this thread seems to be spawned by an argument in another thread and likely will be used as fodder for future arguments so maybe a filming of the "battle" or "battles" from here on out will be beneficial to avoid any allegations of "fixing"<br /> <br /> (IE if Dante and Moloc come to blows no-one will ever freaking believe who the winner is unless its filmed, hell even after that people will continue to claim one is better than the other because of his weapons or fighting style or hair do or recipe for Tyranid Ribs)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Regardless of who wins it won't mean a thing. 5 rounds isn't a big enough sample to be meaningful, and it's not like it's hard to calculate the average result anyway.<br /> <br /> Since we're on to page two without a response, I'll keep spamming: Helbrecht's rules are wrong!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:19:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/cae135bb522aa44889219574a0abca42.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6083277.page"><b>AlmightyWalrus wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6083175.page"><b>2x210 wrote:</b></a><br/>I get this is for fun, but what exactly constitutes the truthfulness of this "battle royale", I mean I could just make up a bunch of random results and say that "Eldrad beats Swarmlord to become the BEST <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> EVER!".<br /> <br /> The point I'm getting at is this thread seems to be spawned by an argument in another thread and likely will be used as fodder for future arguments so maybe a filming of the "battle" or "battles" from here on out will be beneficial to avoid any allegations of "fixing"<br /> <br /> (IE if Dante and Moloc come to blows no-one will ever freaking believe who the winner is unless its filmed, hell even after that people will continue to claim one is better than the other because of his weapons or fighting style or hair do or recipe for Tyranid Ribs)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Regardless of who wins it won't mean a thing. 5 rounds isn't a big enough sample to be meaningful, and it's not like it's hard to calculate the average result anyway.<br /> <br /> Since we're on to page two without a response, I'll keep spamming: Helbrecht's rules are wrong!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> XD]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Give me a break guys finding the time to work it out has been rough.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We are encouraging you maaaaan.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In what direction should I offer the bribe in order to fix the match for Dante.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm sure Moloc can double whatever bribe you throw out there Dante may be in gold armor but he ain't made out of money laugh out loud.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b31d2dde4c62aead87d98d77b7178db4.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6085313.page"><b>bigboss1o1 wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm sure Moloc can double whatever bribe you throw out there Dante may be in gold armor but he ain't made out of money laugh out loud.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Dante isn't fighting you. He is up against Draigo. You have Logan to contend with.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And Logan don't need no money. He has an entire brewery in his back yard. And front yard. And garage. And bedroom. Come to think of it every room contains a brewery. In fact even his brewery contains a brewery.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b31d2dde4c62aead87d98d77b7178db4.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553652/6085313.page"><b>bigboss1o1 wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm sure Moloc can double whatever bribe you throw out there Dante may be in gold armor but he ain't made out of money laugh out loud.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just out of curiosity, how much do you reckon 6k+ suits of Power, Artificier and Terminator Armour and dozens of battle-barges, strike cruisers and forge ships are worth? Because I get the feeling that it's more than whatever any other one Chapter can put up.<br /> <br /> Does that mean the Templars win the bribery contest? <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Calgar would just hand over ultramar if he needed to bribe someone.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Grey don't need no bribery. They literally get whatever they want/need to win.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Has this stopped now? No updates for ages.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't know.<br /> <br /> Funny, this has Gabriel Angelos in this battle, and i have rules for him, so GABE YOU DIDN"T HAVE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> FOREFIT!!! Maybe if this is done again, you can check my rules out in my sig, they're pretty fair <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:13:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ace101]]></author>
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