Grey Templar wrote:
You basically fly over the flyer, vector strike because you can, and then shoot them in the butt(because MCs have 360 LoS) with the Whip.

Its not going to matter against Stormravens(AV12 all around) but all the other flyers have weaker rear armor.

Average number of 7 hits at str6 will get you 2.333 pens and 1.16 glances against armor 10. Which will kill just through hull point loss unless they Jink.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
You basically fly over the flyer, vector strike because you can, and then shoot them in the butt(because MCs have 360 LoS) with the Whip.

Its not going to matter against Stormravens(AV12 all around) but all the other flyers have weaker rear armor.

Average number of 7 hits at str6 will get you 2.333 pens and 1.16 glances against armor 10. Which will kill just through hull point loss unless they Jink.

And Daemon of Slaanesh means those shots are rending, so you'll like get at least 1 or 2 penetrating hits.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
You basically fly over the flyer, vector strike because you can, and then shoot them in the butt(because MCs have 360 LoS) with the Whip.

Its not going to matter against Stormravens(AV12 all around) but all the other flyers have weaker rear armor.

Average number of 7 hits at str6 will get you 2.333 pens and 1.16 glances against armor 10. Which will kill just through hull point loss unless they Jink.

And Daemon of Slaanesh means those shots are rending, so you'll like get at least 1 or 2 penetrating hits.

Does not give ranged weapons rending, only gives the Daemon itself rending, as the weapon itself does not have rending (Big YMDC about this with the Soul Grinders weapon)

GoliothOnline wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
You basically fly over the flyer, vector strike because you can, and then shoot them in the butt(because MCs have 360 LoS) with the Whip.

Its not going to matter against Stormravens(AV12 all around) but all the other flyers have weaker rear armor.

Average number of 7 hits at str6 will get you 2.333 pens and 1.16 glances against armor 10. Which will kill just through hull point loss unless they Jink.

And Daemon of Slaanesh means those shots are rending, so you'll like get at least 1 or 2 penetrating hits.

Does not give ranged weapons rending, only gives the Daemon itself rending, as the weapon itself does not have rending (Big YMDC about this with the Soul Grinders weapon)

By this, does it mean that any Slanesh Daemon with a weapon such as an Etherblade not benefit from Rending?

GoliothOnline wrote:


Ok no, thats where you made the mistake, read up on Rending in the BRB PG41 for quick reference

"If a model has the Rending special rule,
or is attacking with a Melee weapon that
has the Rending special rule, there is a
chance that his close combat attacks will
strike a critical blow. For each To wound
roll of a 6, the target automatically
suffers a wound, regardless of his
Toughness. These Wounds are resolved
at AP 2."

as you can see, the rule specifically states that if you have a model with the rule, his attacks have the rule as well, regardless of it being melee or shooting.. it goes on to state that if the model doesnt have the rule, but the weapon DOES, apply as seen.. The shooting portion is the exact same and reads out the same as well.

 Happyjew wrote:

GoliothOnline wrote:


Ok no, thats where you made the mistake, read up on Rending in the BRB PG41 for quick reference

"If a model has the Rending special rule,
or is attacking with a Melee weapon that
has the Rending special rule, there is a
chance that his close combat attacks will
strike a critical blow. For each To wound
roll of a 6, the target automatically
suffers a wound, regardless of his
Toughness. These Wounds are resolved
at AP 2."

as you can see, the rule specifically states that if you have a model with the rule, his attacks have the rule as well, regardless of it being melee or shooting.. it goes on to state that if the model doesnt have the rule, but the weapon DOES, apply as seen.. The shooting portion is the exact same and reads out the same as well.

It specifically says close combat attacks if the model has the special rule. Please cite where that extends to shooting attacks.


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 Happyjew wrote:

GoliothOnline wrote:


Ok no, thats where you made the mistake, read up on Rending in the BRB PG41 for quick reference

"If a model has the Rending special rule,
or is attacking with a Melee weapon that
has the Rending special rule, there is a
chance that his close combat attacks will
strike a critical blow. For each To wound
roll of a 6, the target automatically
suffers a wound, regardless of his
Toughness. These Wounds are resolved
at AP 2."

as you can see, the rule specifically states that if you have a model with the rule, his attacks have the rule as well, regardless of it being melee or shooting.. it goes on to state that if the model doesnt have the rule, but the weapon DOES, apply as seen.. The shooting portion is the exact same and reads out the same as well.

It specifically says close combat attacks if the model has the special rule. Please cite where that extends to shooting attacks.


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GoliothOnline wrote:
So explain this to me then,

By the logic provided, how does one interpret this ;

In either case, against vehicles, each
armour penetration roll of 6 allows a
further D3 to be rolled, with the result
added to the total.

Now, this portion of the rules doesn't specify which method of attacking is supposed to use THIS portion of the rule...

So how do you determine which?

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Chaos Daemon Princes of Slaanesh (not Chaos Space Marine ones) can purchase whip that is a shooting attack which uses the users strength with non-weapon modifiers.

Also, the whip is 2D6 hits... so there is a good chance of destroying a flier in a single turn if you roll enough shots.

Thing is, though, you also have to purchase wings so that BS matters.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Chaos Daemon Princes of Slaanesh (not Chaos Space Marine ones) can purchase whip that is a shooting attack which uses the users strength with non-weapon modifiers.

Also, the whip is 2D6 hits... so there is a good chance of destroying a flier in a single turn if you roll enough shots.

Thing is, though, you also have to purchase wings so that BS matters.

Just to clarify(because my immediate reaction was a big fat NOO!!); the lash has 2d6 attacks, not hits.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
...i meant hits, not hits.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Chaos Daemon Princes of Slaanesh (not Chaos Space Marine ones) can purchase whip that is a shooting attack which uses the users strength with non-weapon modifiers.

Also, the whip is 2D6 hits... so there is a good chance of destroying a flier in a single turn if you roll enough shots.

Thing is, though, you also have to purchase wings so that BS matters.

Just to clarify(because my immediate reaction was a big fat NOO!!); the lash has 2d6 attacks, not hits.

Toxium wrote:
Can someone site a page reference that allows FMC's to fire at other fliers with skyfire? I can only seem to find it in reference to fliers being given that option. If FMC's cannot, I don't see how Slaanesh DPs are any better at shooting at other fliers.

 grendel083 wrote:

Toxium wrote:
Can someone site a page reference that allows FMC's to fire at other fliers with skyfire? I can only seem to find it in reference to fliers being given that option. If FMC's cannot, I don't see how Slaanesh DPs are any better at shooting at other fliers.

It's in the BRB FAQ i believe.