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				<title>1850 Hybrid Eldar Criticism </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> <br /> 2 Farseer -230 <br /> -bikes <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 2x10 guardians 490 <br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> in each <br /> -2 wave serpents - <br /> -scatter lasers on both <br /> -Holo fields on both <br /> -under slung cannon on both. <br /> 2x3 Jetbikes -122 <br /> -Cannon in each <br /> 10 Dire avengers -130 <br /> <br /> Fast <br /> 8 warp spiders - 152 <br /> <br /> Heavy <br /> 2 Wraith knights -480 <br /> -dual cannon <br /> <br /> 3 support platforms -165 <br /> -d cannons <br /> <br /> Fort. <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> -100 <br /> -quad gun <br /> C&C ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ toocool61]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Hybrid Eldar Criticism </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553894/6077041.page"><b>toocool61 wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> <br /> 2 Farseer -230 <br /> -bikes <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 2x10 guardians <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> 490 <br />  <br /> -2 wave serpents - TLSL Holo <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span><br /> <br /> <font color='red'>I assume the guardians will be in the serpents? if so I think your points are wrong I don't have my codex to confirm but guardians + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> should be 110 I think and a Wave serpent with that load out is 145. so 510 for both<br /> <br /> that being said why buy a heavey weapon platform and then hide it in a wave serpent? you can't fire it as long as your inside the serpent so it becomes wasted points. </font><br /> <br /> 2x3 Jetbikes with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> -122 <br />  <br /> 10 Dire avengers -130 <br /> <br /> Fast <br /> 8 warp spiders - 152 <br /> <br /> Heavy <br /> 2 Wraith knights -480 <br /> -dual cannon<br /> <br /> 3 support platforms -165 <br /> -d cannons<br /> <br /> <font color='red'>I like these but thier only flaw is facing a static gun line, be aware of your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> deployment, give them room inch up if need be and still be bhind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span></font><br /> <br /> Fort. <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> -100 <br /> -quad gun<br /> <br /> [color=red] who is going to man this gun? a dire avenger?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> as far as a mixed foot and mech its a fair list a few things to consider. Dark Reapers with exarch and fast shot, all with starshot make a lethal unit and tend to do better than wraithknights, also they are cheaper. The exarch can also shoot the Icarus twice at incoming flyers as long as you keep him close to it. Just have someelse fire it at other targets.<br /> <br /> With an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> the guardians make a better unit to guard the support batteries. When blobed (ie unit of 20) the brightlances become useful again when purchased. Also a Warlock with conceal makes units behind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> Cover save 2+, no need to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(315);'>GTG</span>. A on foot Farseer adds a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> 10 to the unit while keeping guide and prescienc close to the support batteries and anything else you choose to put behind the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span>. Still that being said you need to find a way to deploy the squad to minimize flamer damage which is footdar's greatest weekness <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> <br /> Someone may have to chime in: will a Warlock reduce the overall toughness of the Support batteries to 3? if not again a warlock with conceal is a great buyand an additional wound. I dont use artillery so I'm not sure of any special rules.<br /> <br /> Two 5 man dire avengers squads can hide in the wave serpents they are cheaper than guardians and being small the 10 shots from the unit are not missed as much.<br /> <br /> Just a few Ideas to think about]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Rune Stonegrinder]]></author>
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