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Here we go:

Chaos Lord
Mark of Khorne
Sigil of Corruption
Power Fist
Bike
Unit Total – 145

attached to:

4 Chaos Bikers
Mark of Khorne
2 Bikers with meltaguns (bike-mounted)
Icon of Wrath
Unit Total - 138

Dark Apostle
Mark of Khorne
Plasma pistol
Unit Total - 145

attached to:

9 Khorne Berserkers
Berserker Champion with combi melta, and melta bombs
Rhino with combi-melta, dirge caster, and destroyer blades
Unit Total - 256

ELITES

3 Mutilators - 165

3 Chaos Terminators
Mark of Slaanesh
Icon of Excess
3 Combi-meltas
Chainfist
Unit Total - 183

TROOPS

10 Chaos Space Marines
Close Combat weapons
Flamer
Autocannon
Rhino with dirge caster
Unit Total - 215

FAST ATTACK

10 Raptors
Mark of Khorne
Raptor Champion with combi-melta and melta bombs
2 Raptors with Flamers
Icon of wrath
Unit Total - 230

Heldrake – 170

ARMY TOTAL - 1647

Any advice? (I need to drop 147 points)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079385.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun

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Besides that... Give your lord a bike if you want him to be fast, get rid of 1 squad of CSM for terminators, give your lord axe of blind fury instead of a power fist, get rid of the dark apostle for some chaos spawn with MoN, and try to get 2 rhino's, one for your berserker's and one for the CSM. if you can find any more points, get a troop of cultists just to hold an objective


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pure devastating melee force]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079403.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun
My thing with the Dark Apostle is that when in combined with the Zerks you're getting 40 Strength 5 attacks on the charge that re-roll misses...I mean bajeebus that would be a horde killer. In terms of actual gaming, is it less good off of paper?

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Made some changes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079722.page GMT Re:CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun
Foot-slogging Khorne Lord with a bunch of Bikers is really derpy. He'd be better off on a Juggernaut, to keep pace, with the AoBF. Keep him up front to soak hits or drop them on other guy if it'd ID him.



If you want a brutal, fast assault force, try:

Huron as HQ to infiltrate infantry units

3x Maulerfiends
1 CSM blob with MoN perhaps joined up to Huron for the infiltrate, another blob to chill on an objective
Couple of Heldrakes and maybe 1 unit of spawn

Maulerfiends ignore terrain and move 12" / turn. They aren't all that amazing when they get there, but they're pretty good for tarpitting Deathstars that are only putting out S5 at best. And they'll be good for eating vehicles.
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Then I checked my list.

Oh God.

What.

Where did his bike go.

Fixed that.



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I dunno, I'm trying to go for a tournament list here - it needs to be fun to play, and I've seen way too many plague marine/maulerfiend + heldrake lists. It's not what I'm trying to go for and it's a bit overdone in my mind.

Thanks for the advice though!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079904.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun MoN. 12" Beasts, T6, who fleet through terrain. Yeah, you get cover saves, on just a hand full of hits that get through and you will be in there face in no time. Add in two rhinos of melee troops and two heldrakes for air support and they will be locked down in their deployment zone. Put in some Cultist going to ground on your objective and hope for their survive-ability. AND Take in a DP with wings to fly in or charge in behind a rhino, OR Infiltrate those troops with Blackheart.

With Mutilators you can only hope that they go chainfist to powerclaws on transports. BUT with Slow and Purposeful you probably won't assault that tank. The Dark Apostle looks good on paper, but if you dont have a mob, say 20 marines or 30 cultists, then that one attack probably wont get you more points then you put into him. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079975.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079975.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun
 Adrian Fue Fue wrote:
For an "In your Face, Melee list" you should take in Spawns with MoN. 12" Beasts, T6, who fleet through terrain. Yeah, you get cover saves, on just a hand full of hits that get through and you will be in there face in no time. Add in two rhinos of melee troops and two heldrakes for air support and they will be locked down in their deployment zone. Put in some Cultist going to ground on your objective and hope for their survive-ability. AND Take in a DP with wings to fly in or charge in behind a rhino, OR Infiltrate those troops with Blackheart.

With Mutilators you can only hope that they go chainfist to powerclaws on transports. BUT with Slow and Purposeful you probably won't assault that tank. The Dark Apostle looks good on paper, but if you dont have a mob, say 20 marines or 30 cultists, then that one attack probably wont get you more points then you put into him.

that's what I was thinking, Also if you get black heart or someone that gives master of deception, or alternatively do not give your lord any steed of any kind and get that warlord trait, give him infiltrate and join him to the spawn to infiltrate them and then nominate whatever infantry units you have left]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6079993.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun
turn one move, probably flat out in shooting.
turn two get out, can not assault that turn
turn three assault.........by this time they have shot you or moved away, fliers are on the board shooting too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080003.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080120.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554003/6080744.page GMT CSM Brutal Assault army list - Competitive yet fun
Ditch the Bikers and add Spawn, they work better with mark of nurgle though. Still not too bad with mark of khorne.

Dark Apostle with Berzerkers is nice, but they should be in Land Raiders so they can assault. Not much of an assault unit if they cannot assault out of their vehicle.

CSM have the wrong weapons; autocannon is ranged anti light armour and the flamer anti troop short ranged. They will be moving to get the flamer in range and the autocannon will be snap firing.

Here is a World Eater list with Khorne Daemon allies I wrote on my blog: http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2013/08/army-lists-chaos-space-marines-world.html

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