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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello gamers!<br /> I have a list here of what I currently have available and have played a game or 2 with. I am hoping for comments on my current list as well as some suggestions for what I should buy next for my army, thanks for taking the time to look.<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (305pts)</b><br /> <u>Librarian</u> (115pts) <br /> Digital Weapons, Mastery Level 2, Melta Bombs, Power Armour, Combi-weapon, Force Sword<br /> <br /> <u>Vulkan He'Stan, Forgefather</u> (190pts)<br /> <br /> <b>Elites (325pts)</b><br /> <u>Dreadnought</u> (145pts)<br /> Extra Armour, Missile Launcher, Twin-Linked Lascannon<br /> <br /> <u>Dreadnought</u> (180pts)<br /> Extra Armour, Multi-Melta, Venerable, Dreadnaught Power Fist, Heavy Flamer<br /> Drop Pod<br /> Storm Bolter<br /> <br /> <b>Troops (665pts)</b><br /> <u>Tactical Squad</u> (240pts)<br /> Heavy Bolter, Meltagun, 9x Space Marine<br /> Rhino<br /> Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Storm Bolter<br /> Space Marine Sergeant<br /> Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon, Melta Bombs, Veteran Sgt.<br /> <br /> <u>Tactical Squad</u> (240pts)<br /> Heavy Bolter, Meltagun, 9x Space Marine<br /> Rhino<br /> Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Storm Bolter<br /> Space Marine Sergeant<br /> Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon, Melta Bombs, Veteran Sgt.<br /> <br /> <u>Tactical Squad</u> (185pts)<br /> Meltagun, Multi-Melta, 9x Space Marine<br /> Space Marine Sergeant<br /> Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon, Melta Bombs, Veteran Sgt.<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support (185pts)</b><br /> <u>Devastator Squad</u> (185pts)<br /> 4x Missile Launcher w/ flakk, 4x Space Marine<br /> Space Marine Sergeant<br /> Bolt pistol, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Veteran Sgt.<br /> <br /> <b>Total - 1480</b><br /> <br /> I have tried to run Combi-flamers for the Sergeants and that works fine against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, and other High armor save armies, but against Marines they are almost useless, especially the termi-heavy armies in my game group. I was thinking I would try Combi-Gravs against those opponents but I haven't had a chance to actually try yet...my Salamanders dont feel the same without their flamers :(]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Kitsune2]]></author>
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				<title>1500 points Salamanders- Getting back into the Hobby</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Three things come to mind. <br /> <br /> In the order you listed your army, I would assume that you want the libby to be your warlord, but I just wanted to make sure you know, Vulcan has to be your warlord if you want Master-crafted Melta/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/C-Melta.  <br /> <br /> Also, to comment on Combi-Grav, I love them.  Yeah, it doesn't give the Salamander feel you want, but I find them effective in killling Riptides and Terminators.  2 shots on the top/rhino rush with a re-roll gives them 2 hits reliably and wounds on 2+.  I like them.  If they weren't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>'d I'd look back into Flamer/Melta.<br /> <br /> I'd look into drop pods, even at 1500, you can fit 5 easily. I'm not sure those devastator squads are going to do what you want them to.  If you want anti-air, you want <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> that doesn't die to the helturkies.  I love my Stalkers.  The more I use them, the more I like em.  Even when there isn't an air/skimmers, I snapfire 8 shots at 2 different targets and hope to cause a single wound for morale checks (obviously I'm aiming at already weakened targets from the rest of my shooting).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:16:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Saythings]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 points Salamanders- Getting back into the Hobby</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Saly with no flamers? Blasphemy!<br /> <br /> Edit: I erased this post as i misread the point limit. I like stalker and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with lascannons over flakk missiles. Stalker for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and Las for Terms.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:29:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1500 points Salamanders- Getting back into the Hobby</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ To be honest the Librarian is in the list just to fill in points until I can buy some more models. Are you saying that if I have Vulkan as well as the Librarian I cant get the Vulkan Melta rule? that would be unfortunate.<br /> <br />  I never really thought about Drop Pods, back when I played in 5th edition they had just started getting popular right before I started playing, I bought the one I have just because it came with the 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>. Squad for 5 dollars more than just a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>. Squad. Maybe with Salamanders being the kind of army they are Drop pods could be a good idea, I'll look into it.<br />   <br /> I agree with the anti air as well, my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span>. Squad gets targeted almost immediately after my poor dreadnought (Which failed both times I tried to drop him in and melt something turn one, bad Armor Pen rolls both times <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0">  ) other than that and the Drop Pods though, what do you think should be my next Purchase? What do you  think my army really needs to fill it out a bit more. I really want a Land Raider again, maybe some Assault Terminators, but if you think something else would be a bit better let me know.<br /> <br /> Oh and thank you of course, for taking the time to check this out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Sep 2013 04:30:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kitsune2]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 points Salamanders- Getting back into the Hobby</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Personally, a nasty combo to run in any army is Sterguard with an attached Librarian. The best choice is Tigurius because he has access to Divination, but when trying to run a Salamanders army *which I do regularly* a standard Epistolary with Biomancy works really well. Blessings really boost the effectiveness of the Sternguard, and you have a halfway decent melee model to aid them in times of Close Combat.<br /> <br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/1b889ccd6e907d5f87242671e4d55e44.gif" border="0">  For the Founding Father!  <img src="/s/i/a/2d5b8fdf25f5a7ce19e76bd18b874f17.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Sep 2013 04:42:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BansonFal]]></author>
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