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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "2K Black Templars: Las/Plas, Raiders, and Preds..."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 2K Black Templars: Las/Plas, Raiders, and Preds... TAC BT list?

HQ

High Marshal Helbrecht - 180

TROOPS

5-man Crusader Squad - Lascannon, Plasmagun - 105

5-man Crusader Squad - Lascannon, Plasmagun - 105

5-man Crusader Squad - Lascannon, Plasmagun - 105

5-man Crusader Squad - Lascannon, Plasmagun - 105

10-Man Crusader Squad w/ 5 Neophytes - both Initiates and Neophytes w/ BP/CCW, Flamer, Power Weapon, Sword Brethren w/ Power Weapon - 235

*Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Crusader - 250

10-Man Crusader Squad w/ 6 Neophytes - both Initiates and Neophytes w/ BP/CCW, Flamer, Power Weapon, Sword Brethren w/ Power Weapon - 245

*Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Crusader - 250

HEAVY SUPPORT

Predator w/ TL Lascannon and Lascannon Sponsons - 140

Predator w/ TL Lascannon and Lascannon Sponsons - 140

Predator w/ TL Lascannon and Lascannon Sponsons - 140

Total = 2000 POINTS

Basic Strategy is this: Lascannons and Las/Plas Squads hang near the back. Las/Plas squads stay near the Preds' side armor, so that they get a cover save if opponent tries to shoot it there. Land Raiders Rush towards enemy, while Preds and Las/Plas take out any vehicles or MC that might threaten it (13 Lascanoon shots per turn is nothing to sneeze at). First chance Raiders get, they unload their Crusader squads. Helbrecht uses both special rule and warlord trait so I have 31 guys with Hatred and Fleet on the charge, and 16 guys with Furious charge!

Some questions:

1.) Keep Helbrecht or replace him with a Captain equipped w/ Burning Blade, Artificer Armor, and Storm Shield for the same cost?

2.) What type of power weapons should I give the Crusader squads? I was thinking either maul or Lighning Claw on the Sword Brethren, and Axe or sword on the initiate...

3.) Should I sacrifice a couple initiates so I can give my LRC Multi-Meltas?

4.) If I get rid of Helbrecht, should I give Neophytes shotguns instead? With him, they'll be each having 3 S5 attacks on the first charge. Without him, they're just S4. Shotgun give two S4 shots already, so...

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6100213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6100213.page GMT 2K Black Templars: Las/Plas, Raiders, and Preds... CM) for better resiliency
2) Claw and axe is not a bad option. For the squad that your HQ will join I would go double PF
3) MMs wouldn't hurt but aren't "must-takes"
4) I'd keep the CCWs on the neophytes, their BS kinda sucks whereas they'll still hit on 4s in CC regardless.

Don't know if it's an issue where you play but you have 0 anti-air. A TFC would be a good addition to the list and is considered an "auto take" nowadays, it would free up some points too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6101113.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6101113.page GMT 2K Black Templars: Las/Plas, Raiders, and Preds... ADL I'm concerned about the Predators' chances of survival. AV13 isn't the easiest to deal with, but it's far from difficult to address. As a TAC list it's not bad, but dedicated gunlines and flier heavy lists will ruin your day.

If you're double the Forc Org at 2k, I'd drop the LRC teams for a trio of TFCs and 2-3 Skyhammer Stormtalons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6101507.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6101507.page GMT 2K Black Templars: Las/Plas, Raiders, and Preds...

phoenix darkus wrote:
1) I would go with the captain (or if you can fit it, a CM) for better resiliency
2) Claw and axe is not a bad option. For the squad that your HQ will join I would go double PF
3) MMs wouldn't hurt but aren't "must-takes"
4) I'd keep the CCWs on the neophytes, their BS kinda sucks whereas they'll still hit on 4s in CC regardless.

Don't know if it's an issue where you play but you have 0 anti-air. A TFC would be a good addition to the list and is considered an "auto take" nowadays, it would free up some points too.

As for anti-air I'd think the 13 Lascannons I'm fielding (3 twin-linked) would be AA enough). Maybe I'm putting too much faith in them though...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6108236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555175/6108236.page GMT