Valkyrie wrote:
Ah, my mistake with the Autocannon. My local meta barely includes any Flyers (I think there's 1 Storm Raven, a couple of Talons and a Vendetta, that's it), if I was to keep the Vulture would it be best fitted with the Autocannon/Hunter Killer loadout to serve as a Flyer deterrent?

Gift of Mutation is just a bit of a gimmick I suppose. I like the chance of getting a little bit extra but looking at the list, that's 50 points spent on such upgrades that, in hindsight aren't as good as I previously imagined. Those points spared could go towards MoN for the Obliterators then I'd imagine.

By dropping the Autocannon (possibly the Terminators too) and the GoMs, this gives me 75 points free, approx 50 after MoN for the Obliterators. I'm still a bit reluctant to take a Heldrake. It's no doubt excellent in-game, but the model's *quite* hideous and a tad expensive. My list was designed towards more casual play (hence the GoM). If I was to drop the Terminators alltogether that would give me another 100 or so points, enough to get a couple of Rhinos and some Cultists (means my IG models won't be condemmed to dust-collecting). Thoughts on this?

 Valkyrie wrote:
Just had the first game with the new list today, 1500pts against Tyranids, who used Tervigons, a Carnifex, Doom and a Trygon backed up by Gaunts.

I ended up losing the game by one point, although personally I believe this was down to the circumstances of the game rather than flaws in the list.

1: Sorceror performed very well, inflicting Weapon Virus* on several units. Very nice to see more guys die to their own Overwatch fire than however many they killed of mine.

*I free-ed up some points to give him MoN.

2: Placement of the models in one of the squads meant I lost both Plasma Gunners to the Doom's large blast attack. Had one of them survived, I could have killed his Trygon, which would have taken Linebacker off him.

3: The Raptors didn't perform as well as I had hoped, mainly as one unit was hugging cover most of the time to avoid Warp Blast fire.

4: The guy I was playing was a bit of a dubious player. There'd be the occasional failed wound that he'd pocket, claim as a success. I also noticed several inconsistencies in his list, such as his Trygon suddenly becoming a Prime when it's his turn to shoot, giving him 6 extra shots, and his Tervigon "suddenly isn't a character" after Abaddon takes 4 wounds off him in a challenge**. After the game I noticed the general attitude towards this guy was that you have to be a bit wary of him, plus he was also quite blessed by Nurgle if you get me.

** His justification for this was that it doesn't say in the Tyranid book, a book that was written in 5th, that the Tervigon is a character. Only when the manager held the book in front of him and pointed it out did he sheepishly agree, allowing Abaddon to stomp his face in.