Buttlerthepug wrote:
With the release of the Phoenix Guard models, I'm finding myself caught up in wanting to play pre-heresy EC again, and with the the previews of the new kakophoni marines, I simply cant help but use the Chaos Marine rules.

My question is, how viable would a CSM list be that only utilized pre-heresy equivalent units?

Chaos Lord (Fulgrim)
Chosen (Palatine Blades)
Terminators (Phoenix Guard)
Dreadnoughts (Contemptor)
Noise Marines
Raptors, Vehicles, etc.

With this in mind, I wouldn't be able to use any of the more Chaos specific stuff such as obliterators, cultists, defilers, etc.

Is a list comprising of just those types of units mentioned above viable? Especially when all of it is marked as Slaanesh? And how would you suggest getting around the obvious weapon dilemma? I assume most of the units will need special weapons of some sort in order to be viable, yet the palatine blades and phoenix guard do not come with such options.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Blitza da warboy wrote:
Yes there was. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/Games_Day_Preview_Two.html

 sierra 1247 wrote:
What you could do is use C:SM and use vanguard vets as your palatine blades, only downside is you wouldnt be able to use noise marines...

 Buttlerthepug wrote:
C:SM is forced to pick a chapter now though, right? That was my initial idea, but it turned me off knowing that I'd be playing EC with another chapter's rules.

I'm actually fine without using Noise Marines though, as I can always switch back and forth between the two codexes if need be.

 Buttlerthepug wrote:
Looking at the SM book, I'm sort of leaning towards that now. Seems like I could make the options work much more.

I actually want to use the Heresy book's rules as well, but from what I gather, they're fairly over-powered, so I won't use it too often.

The only thing really proving to be difficult is the terminators.
The Phoenix Guard models only have glaives, and I'm sure SM Terminators would need some kind of ranged weaponry to be useful, unless there's a way to run them straight melee in a successful manner? Thoughts?

Edit: Also, how good are relic blades? It seems like if I were to use the Palatine Blades as Honor Guard, the relic blades would be much more fitting.

 Buttlerthepug wrote:
the Lord of War slot is reserved for Super Heavies, Primarchs, etc., right? Can't say I'd use them without permission anyways (and never the Super Heavies... likely just Fulgrim).

However, it doesn't hurt to have an army I can use across 3 different books. But for now I'll probably just give it a whirl with the SM book.

And come to think of it, even in the Heresy book, there's no rules for Phoenix Guard, so no matter what I'm at a loss for how to run them, unless there's a way to effectively run melee Terminators.