http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Karandras-230
Ranger unit - 60
Striking scorpion 10 man w/ exarch and scorpion claw and crushing blow-215 (contains Karandras)
1x Fire Dragons 5 man w/wave serpent and exarch-245
Swooping Hawks 10 man -170
10 man unit of warp spiders w/ exarch w/fast shot, marksman's eye, and twin-linked death spinner-225
2x Dire Avengers 10 man units w/exarchs w/ dire sword and pistol and battle focus w/ wave serpent transport =550
2 wraith lords w/ scatter lasers and ghost glaives
I can drop the dire-sword and battle fortune from the dire avengers to get enough points to grab a guardian squad with a scatter laser, thoughts?
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If it is for fun and friendly games then go for it, who cares what anyone thinks.

If you are looking for performance tweaks then is it really for fun?

If it is for fluff then your motivation may need further descriptions as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115336.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115336.page GMT lol ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115404.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115404.page GMT
Immediately the Scorpions and Wraithlords jump out at me as somewhat out of place as they are so slow compared to the rest of the army. I expect the Scorpions will Infiltrate with Karandras?

The Scorpions could prove an excellent distraction that will allow the rest of the army a little time to maneuver, but I am not sure they would actually survive for very long....although if ignored they could punish a unit or to up close.

I am also not sure I am convinced with how many upgrades for the Exarch's you have taken, a lot of points could be saved by removing some of them. (Like you have already commented).

A camping Guardian Squad for objective sitting could go well, use the Rangers to try and hold a more distant objective and let the guardian squad hold the home field objective? They could go well with the Wraithlords playing baby sitter?

I have never been a fan of any of the CC weapon upgrades on the Dire Avenger Exarch's, my experience is that if they end up in CC then it is all but over, you may be able to challenge and preserve a little of the squad for a turn or to, but I would spend those points elsewhere.

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Are your wave serpents stock? If so, this is where I would start using the saved points. Holo fields are almost a must, as is TL SL's.


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If you drop the pretty useless crushing blow then you can get both holo fields and SL's! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555945/6115581.page GMT str 8 hits at ap2 at int 6 O.o


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A revised list.
Karandras-230
2x Ranger unit - 60
Striking scorpion 10 man w/ exarch and scorpion claw and crushing blow -215 (contains Karandras)
1x 5 man Fire Dragons exarch w/wave serpent with holo field and scatter laser -265
Swooping Hawks 5 man w/ exarch -90
10 man unit of warp spiders w/ exarch w/twinlinked death spinner-205
2x 10 man Dire Avengers units w/exarchs w/power weapon and Shimmer shield in a wave serpent transport w/ holo field and twinlinked scatter lasers=560
2 wraith lords w/ scatter lasers and ghost glaives -290
Vaul Support battery - 30
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