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Right this is my mates army list that keeps winning alot. anyone have any ideas how to damn well kill it???

Vulkan He'stan 190

Command Squad : Apothacary,Champion, Flamer Melta, ThunderHammer Storm shield + drop pod 225

Libraian: Level 2 in power armour, Force Axe, shield Eternal,combi flamer 150

10 man tactical squad : Flamer, combi flamer, multimelta + drop pod 200

10 man tactical squad : Vet Sgt, combi melta, powerfist, Multimelta, melta + drop pod 240

9 Attack bikes : multi meltas 495

this is hurting lots at the minute.... please help!!!!

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125494.page GMT For marines a base of 60 tacs/scouts will only take half your points and then drown them in assault, with flyers coming on to finish the bikes.


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Iron hands (for the 6+ fnp)

Librarian

6 x 9 scouts

3 x stormraven
Assault and melta

2 x stormtalon
Skyhammer

OR

Prime
Boneswords, toxin, adrenal

Parasite

3 x 20 gargoyles
Adrenal, toxin

16 termagants

3 x 22 hormagaunts
Toxin, adrenal

(Admittedly only parasite can damage the pods but you shouldnt be worrying about 6 storm bolter shots with this list)

OR

Overlord
Mss, weave, scythe, orb

3 x lord
Orb, scythe

4 x 15 warriors

9 scarabs (tarpit command squad for a couple of turns)

2 x nightscythe

Don't have ork or guard codex so cant comment on these.


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Or BA

Librarian

3 x 10 assault squad

3 x 5 devestators
4 missile launchers

2 x 5 assault termis
4 x th/ss


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Hope it helps :-)!


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Also bear in mind these are lists specifically designed off the top of my head against your mates list. They are not TAC lists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125659.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125875.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125977.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6125996.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6126051.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556502/6126051.page GMT