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				<title>Crimson Fists 1500 Pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The list is supposed to be 1500, but I have 50 points left wich I have no idea what to use for.<br /> Not sure yet to swap out the Combi Plasma on one of the group Sternguard with combi-Flamers<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: normal;"><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (255pts)</span><br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Librarian</span><br /> Power Armor, Force Maul, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Level1 Psyker.<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Pedro Kantor</span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: normal;">Elites (645pts)</span><br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Ironclad Dreadnought</span><br /> Dreadnaught Powerfist with Heavy Flamer, Seismic Hammer with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod with Deathwind Missile Launcher.<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Sternguard Veterans</span><br /> Sergeant with Combi-Melta and Melta-Bomb.<br /> 4 Veterans with Combi-Meltas, Drop-Pod with Storm Bolter.<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Sternguard Veterans</span><br /> Sergeant with Combi-Plasma and Melta-Bomb.<br /> 4 Veterans with Combi-Plasma, Drop-Pod with Storm Bolter.<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;">Troops (160pts)</span><br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Scout Squad</span><br /> Veteran Sergeant with Sniper Rifle, Bolt Pistol and Camo Cloak.<br /> 4 Scouts with Sniper Rifles, Bolt Pistols and Camo Cloaks.<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Scout Squad</span><br /> Veteran Sergeant with Sniper Rifle, Bolt Pistol and Camo Cloak.<br /> 4 Scouts with Sniper Rifles, Bolt Pistols and Camo Cloaks.<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: normal;">Heavy Support (290pts)</span><br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Devastator Squad</span><br /> Sergant with Bolt Pistol and Chainsword.<br /> 2 Heavy Bolter Marines.<br /> 2 Missile Launcher Marines.<br /> 4 Marines.<br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Thunder Fire Cannon</span><br /> <br /> Edit: Forgot the Fortifications.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: normal;">Fortification (100pts)</span><br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Aegis Defence Line</span><br /> Gun emplacement with quad-gun<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:17:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Grumpy Eldar]]></author>
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				<title>Crimson Fists 1500 Pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Moa stern guards they are troops :p]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:37:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Crimson Fists 1500 Pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Make the Scout squads up to 7 men each ( combat squads are so fragile,every extra body helps ) and do not switch out the SGV to combi-flamers,you have Dragonfire rounds that ignore cover.<br /> <br /> Other than that,it is quite a nice list you have there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:50:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Pedro Kantor]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6c92c5ee3a91b6f5a7dda446ae6fd5ac.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/557395/6141743.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>Moa stern guards they are troops :p</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Kantor makes Sternguard scoring, but they stay in the elite slot.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:56:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cappizzano]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Crimson Fists 1500 Pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/557395/6141774.page"><b>Pedro Kantor wrote:</b></a><br/>Make the Scout squads up to 7 men each ( combat squads are so fragile,every extra body helps ) and do not switch out the SGV to combi-flamers,you have Dragonfire rounds that ignore cover.<br /> <br /> Other than that,it is quite a nice list you have there.</div></blockquote><br /> I was eventually planning to make the Scout squads bigger but I haven't come to buying them yet. <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0">  That's why they are separated into 2x 5 instead of 7/10 x 2.<br /> <br /> Planning to get the scouts close to objectives inside of some terrain, and then bolster the terrain with the techmarine from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>. Making them a pain to get away from there. So they won't die that fast actually.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:14:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Grumpy Eldar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Crimson Fists 1500 Pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ditch scout squads all together. You want bolters. Using IF tactics, you want tactical marines for their bolters, they are basically BS5. Other than that, your list seems ok, I don't know what you are hoping to accomplish by using the ironclad dreadnought. It is good, no doubt, but just ONE is a terrible idea, ESPECIALLY considering that is really your only threat that has armor. It will be destroyed the very first turn your opponent can shoot at it. I would throw in another sternguard squad. And deathwinds are really an all-or-nothing deal, either they all got it and your opponent says "screw this" and doesn't know whether or not to fire on your drop pods, or none of them have it and your opponent doesn't shoot at your drop pods at all. Really, deathwinds give your opponents that much more of a reason to get some easy kill points from your pods.<br /> <br /> Really do love crimson fist, its my army and you seem to have a very similar build as mine.<br /> <br /> <i>edited for clarity</i>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:45:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ WonderAliceLand]]></author>
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