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				<description><![CDATA[ This is my idea for a Black Legion with Chaos Space Marine allies army for mainly Zone Mortalis, Cities of Death and Planet Strike games though It would end up being used for alot of normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games. Its not meant to be massively competitive as why it has alot of units that are based more on looks than efficiency. <br />  I realise though it has a very low model count at about 45 and no transports, which may be a problem wouldn't mind cutting it back right down to 2000 points as well, all ideas welcome<br /> <br /> Black Legion<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Daemon Prince								180<br /> o	Daemon of Tzeentch						<br /> o 	Power Armour							<br /> <br /> Chaos Lord									145<br /> o	Power Fist								<br /> o	Combi-melta							<br /> o	Sigil of Corruption							<br /> o	Mark of Tzeentch							<br /> o	Veteran of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Chaos Dreadnought 							 110<br /> o	Power Scourge													<br /> <br /> Noise Marines x 8 								224<br /> o	Champions: Power Sword					<br /> o	Champions: Doom Siren						<br /> o	Sonic Blaster x6							<br /> o	Blast Master								<br /> o	Veterans of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Troop<br /> Chosen Squad (Dark Vengeance Squad) x7			245<br /> o	Champion: Power Maul 						<br /> o	Champion: Melta Bomb						<br /> o	Lightening Claws							<br /> o	Power Fist								<br /> o	Power Axe x2							<br /> o	Veterans of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Chosen Squad (Sons of Horus Reaver Squad) x7 		230<br /> o	Champion: Power Axe						<br /> o	Champion: Melta Bomb						<br /> o	Power Fist								<br /> o	Power Axe								<br /> o	Flamer								<br /> o	Icon of Vengeance 							<br /> o	Veterans of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Chosen Squad (Dark Angles Fallen) x5 				164<br /> o	Champion: Plasma Pistol						<br /> o	Champion: Power Sword						<br /> o	Plasma Gun x2							<br /> o	Veterans of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Heavy Support <br /> Obliterators x3 								      219<br /> o	Veterans of the Long War						<br /> <br /> Black Legion Total: 1532<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marine Allies<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Sorcerer									   105<br /> o	Sigil of Corruption						<br /> o	Mark of Tzeentch							<br /> <br /> Troop<br /> Thousand Sons x9							      242<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Chaos Decimeter Daemon Engine 				       240<br /> o	Butcher Cannon							<br /> o	Mark of Tzeentch							<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marine Allies Total: 587<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Combined Total: 2104<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Firstly I never like putting powerfists on my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span> it wastes their generally higher I value and with t4 and 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span> ideally needs to be striking first as often as possible.  Secondly can chaos ally with chaos because on allies table it doesnt give the choice? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree with about Power Fist generally, but its on an old metal Lord so I can't really change it unless I want to buy a new model as I've tried to counter the low I with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> for a 3++ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span> <br /> Pretty sure Black Legion Supplement can ally with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex not 100% sure though if anyone knows otherwise ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 07:45:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ assuming with playing ZM you may have gamers using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> models as part of their lists you may see rapiers and contemptors against you? <br /> <br /> do you have anything to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> in behind them - i'm not familiar with the rules but have seen grav cannons used on a ZM game almost halt an assault at the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> weekender in May.  High iniative is a bonus with the reaction fire rules.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 08:05:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Be careful with the dreadnought and Daemon Prince, in some places they may get stuck, and personally I'd take some terminators instead of some of the chosen.<br /> Also, Spawn are quite under rated, give them the mark of Nurgle and for 36 points your moving 12 inches up the board a turn, with 3 wounds toughness 6 and up to 8 attacks on the charge. (Rage) a squad of 5 of these could be destructive, but underestimated <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br />  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:19:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thats a very valid point about doorways and 60mm bases.<br /> I could drop the Reaver Chosen squad for some Terminators as that would also give me a unit besides the Obliterators that can deepstrike, spawn/possessed are also an option I guess for some speed ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:43:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> can all with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>.  You should also give your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> wings or chaos artefacts, if not I'd probably get rid of him for that extra 180 points]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:47:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Since you're running with Black Legion you ought to take advantage og some of the awesome artefacts.<br /> <br /> Drop the Powerfist on your lord and give him the Hand of Darkness instead. Strikes on Initiative with S8,AP1 and cause Instant Death. Or (since you already run the Tzeentch theme, try the Crusible of Lies. Sure it's -1 Toughness, but now you re-roll 1's on Invul saves! And as long as he's not in a Challenge, he'll benefit from Majority Toughness of his unit anyway.<br /> <br /> For your Prince I'd consider the Skull of Ker'ngar for the Eternal Warrior.<br /> <br /> I would drop him, though, for a Sorcerer. ML3, Bike, Familiar and the last Memory cost exactly the same, but is way more fun, and useful in a city. Remember a Nova doesn't need Line of Sight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:49:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ GeneralCael]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the help guys, think I'm going to sit on it for a while still while I finish my Red Scorpions.<br /> I like the idea of a Sorcerer on a bike, will probably add him in, maybe replace the lord and will certainly figure out an artifact for the Daemon Prince]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:21:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Johnson101]]></author>
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