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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello all,  I am struggling coming up with a good space marine list,  Can you please <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> this for me?  Let me know what is competitive in it and what is not.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Librarian, Bike, Master <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 <br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad x10<br />      Lascannon, Melta              <br /> Razorback <br />     <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon        <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad x10<br />      Lascannon, Melta              <br /> Razorback<br />      <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon<br /> <br /> Scout Squad<br />      Telion<br /> Missle Launcher, 3 snipers, camo cloaks  <br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Attack Bike, Multi Melta<br /> Attack Bike, Multi Melta<br /> Attack Bike, Multi Melta<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> Centurion Devestators, 3x Lascannon <br /> Centurion Devestators, 3x Grav cannon/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amp</span> and 3x Missle Launcers <br /> Hunter <br /> <br /> Total 1496<br /> <br /> Help please? Let me know what is good and what is bad!<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:36:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Suks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ml</span> on the las cents. Their ranges match up that way.<br /> <br /> Also I prefer plasma to melta on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads. Melta on tacs is too situational, whereas plasma synergizes better with their bolters.<br /> <br /> Also, that's a lot of points in cents. Consider dropping one squad for a couple of stormtalons.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> If you did that you could have a unit of two attack bikes. You could also drop the hunter. This would give you points to buy something else.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Maybe a thunderfire cannon to give your scouts some bolstered cover.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Talons and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>tfcs</span> are both great units that you should consider if you're looking to be competitive.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:29:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jamo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 SM List: Would this be considered remotely competitive?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I really think 2 squads of Centurions is too much for a 1500pt list.<br /> <br /> I think they're a bit mismatched in terms of their loadouts as well. I think the Missile Launcher upgrade is a good buy, but if you're only going to give it to one squad, give it to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(756);'>TLLC</span> squad and give them anti-armor duty, and deploy your grav squad forward to leave them with the shorter-range hurricane bolters, which have the same range as the grav cannons.<br /> <br /> Your Librarian has no friends.<br /> <br /> Here's something that would be more competitive. I threw this together so don't take it as the holy gospel, but it might give you some ideas.<br /> <br /> Captain 145<br /> Bike<br /> Primarch's Wrath<br /> Power Weapon<br /> <br /> Bike Squad 188<br /> (Captain goes here)<br /> 6x Bikes<br /> 2x Meltaguns<br /> <br /> Bike Squad 203<br /> 6x Bikes<br /> 2x Meltaguns<br /> Sgt. w/ power weapon<br /> <br /> Scouts 131<br /> Camo Cloaks<br /> Missile Launcher<br /> 3x Sniper rifle<br /> Telion<br /> (this squad camps a home objective with Telion manning the Icarus lascannon)<br /> <br /> Attack Bike 55<br /> Multi-melta<br /> <br /> Attack Bike 55<br /> Multi-melta<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator Squad 250<br /> 3x Grav cannons<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator Squad 280<br /> 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(756);'>TLLC</span><br /> 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <br /> Thunderfire Cannon 100<br /> <br /> Aegis Defense Line w/ Icarus 85<br /> <br /> =1492<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:42:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CDRAlbrecht]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How are you taking the Bikes as troops?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:33:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Suks]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 SM List: Would this be considered remotely competitive?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Check out the Codex. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> Under the entries for Chapter Masters and Captains, you'll find a special rule called Mounted Assault. If you have one of these two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> on a bike, you can take bike squads of at least 5 models as troop choices.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:35:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CDRAlbrecht]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If your captain's on a bike he can take bike squads as troops.<br /> <br /> [EDIT] Ninja'd.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:38:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Flood]]></author>
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