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Iron Hands Chapter Tactics

HQ
Librarian 65
-Force Axe, Biomancy

Elites
Terminator Assault Squad 225
-5 w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield

Terminator Assault Squad 225
-5 w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield

Troops
Tactical Squad 125
-Flamer, Combi-Flamer, Meltabombs, Rhino

Tactical Squad 115
-Multi-Melta, Rhino

Tactical Squad 115
-Multi-Melta, Rhino

Heavy Support
Devastator Squad 110
-4 Missile Launchers

Land Raider Crusader 260
-Multi-Melta

Land Raider Crusader 260
-Multi-Melta


Roster Total: 1,500


I have a 1,500 point tournament approaching at the end of the month and this is the list I am likely to run. I like the Iron Hands chapter tactics for It Will Not Die on my vehicles... Regenerating hull points on Land Raiders is very good. I know one of the missions is Big Guns Never Tire, which is why the Land Raiders are in the Heavy Support section instead of being dedicated transports.

The Librarian has Biomancy for some CC buffs. He can either buff his unit (the Flamer Tacticals) or a unit of Terminators. The Flamer Tacticals are used for a smaller objective-clearing unit. They will not leave their Rhino til turn 4-5 (assuming they have the choice).

The Tacticals with Multi-Meltas set up 24" fire lanes after parking near an objective. Ideally they will never leave their Rhinos and fire from the hatch all game.

The Assault Terminators each embark in a Land Raider Crusader and do what they do best... break stuff! The Terminators and their rides will attract a lot of attention, which is exactly what I want them to do. They are the main hammer of the army and few lists can reliably take on 2 Raiders and 2x5 Termies at 1,500 points.

Any suggestions?


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After giving it more thought, should I replace the Devastator Squad with a fourth 5-man Tactical Squad in a Rhino? I would drop the Meltabombs on the Flamer squad and use the points to equip the new squad with a Multi-Melta. It would leave me with more scoring, but less firepower. Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6154133.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6154133.page GMT
the devastators vs another tactical squads is a toss up ... you have long range support or more msu scoring

maybe try to add in a storm talon for some form of AA?

the list looks decent, but against heavy fliers or hordes I see you having some serious issues.

I run tri-raider DA, and multiple land raiders can be really effective - but im not sure how much of a punch you have offensively. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155284.page GMT MotF, then find some spare points lying around for another techmarine; then put each in a different raider.

3+ Blessing followed by 5+ IWND is just nasty; it's almost like papa nurgle infested the raiders himself...

p.s. It's all gaks and giggles until someone giggles and gaks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155390.page GMT Motf and Techmarine idea certainly is amusing. Dropping the Devastators could pay for that, although that would leave my army with no weapon able to shoot over 24".

I don't have a Storm Talon unfortunately, and won't be getting any more models before the tournament. I can ally in IG and take 1-2 Vendettas, but then I don't have points for two Land Raiders full of Terminators... which is the whole point of the list!

I think I have enough punch between the Terminators and the Land Raiders. Why do you suggest I put the Librarian with the Terminators?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558121/6155411.page GMT