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				<description><![CDATA[ Please take a look and add some C&C<br /> <br /> Gaberial Seth<br /> Captain Tycho<br /> Honour guard - chapter banner, p fist, 3 x infernus pistols<br /> Drop pod<br /> 8 x sternguard - p fist, 2 x combi melta, 2 x combi plasma, heavy flamer<br /> Drop pod<br /> 8 x sternguard - p fist, 2 x combi melta, 2 x combi plasma, multi melta<br /> Drop pod<br /> 2 x sanguinary priests<br /> Assault squad<br /> Rhino<br /> Assault squad<br /> Rhino<br /> Scout squad - sniper rifles, camo cloaks<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> squad - 4 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> squad - 4 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> - quad gun<br /> <br /> Tycho sits with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and mans the quad gun BS5 goodness<br /> Seph will drop with honour guard to benefit form chapter banner<br /> Each of the sternguard get a priest<br /> The rhinos are fast so will sit back in cover to rush objectives in turn 5]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Can meph do that because hes not an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span> so can he take up a pod space?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:2k BA list C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span> characters are units by themselves, so mephy cannot drop with the other unit ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:34:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2k BA list C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558313/6158650.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span> characters are units by themselves, so mephy cannot drop with the other unit </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This is a better way of saying what I wanted to say....<br /> <br /> Still work with powered up libby I guess]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:38:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ warren0110]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I guess that's an over site on my part. I guess I could swap the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s but I'm not to keen on sitting one of the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> units in the game behind an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span><br /> <br /> Hmmm I guess he can go all Rambo if I keep him in the list, I'm pretty sure he will get dunked in the face pretty early though.<br /> <br /> Any suggestions?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:00:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kranki]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k BA list C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ take a pred/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>/Rhino and use it as mobile cover. and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> blocker for mephy as he moves across the board (when terrain won't work.) also, putting assault squads in rhinos is a terrible Idea. drop the plasmas on the sternguard and just take meltas. they are there to pop a heavy vehicle. I would suggest dropping the reclusiarch. thats 130~ points for nice toys.  honestly the quad gun won't be very effective vs most flyers. would be better to just take a flyer of your own and pop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> in a ruin. honor guard are nice but I would suggest giving them plasma guns. mephy is <b>NOT</b> a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span>  killer, he is a bully, if you put him against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> that have AP2 he will lose most likely (unless they are T5 or lower and fail 2+ saves AND not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span>) use him to pop more vehicles and kill squishier targets. <br /> <br /> on that note I would suggest droping a stern guard and dropping the other to a 5 man squad suicide. this should give you enough points for another assault squad w/ a priest. or a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:12:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've edited the list to make the drop pods work with out changing the core<br /> <br /> Raiden thanks for your input I will review what you have written and maybe pop up a second list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:29:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kranki]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k BA list C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As much as I like tycho I just never find a good spot to use him. 175 points just feels... Ugh..  I know why you want to use them, and I am with you for fluffy ness, but if your looking for effectiveness... a normal Libby would be better as I -think- the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> libby can take divination which gives prescience ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:34:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> libby can take powers from the big book, also one of the reasons I took Tycho is for the BS5 with the quad gun.<br /> <br /> The Tycho choice isn't really for fluff I'm just looking for some protection for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and he has some utility to do that as well as army wide LD10.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:04:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kranki]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k BA list C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hope it works for you, I still recommend keeping the jump packs on the assault marines for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(627);'>HoW</span> and the movement. since you cannot assault after disembarking from rhinos.  good use of terrain + the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> will reduce casualties. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> here are a couple of lists that have given me some luck before if you wanna try them. <br /> you can swap the libbys out for astorath or some other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>. <br /> <br /> 2 Librarian w/ Unleash Rage and Shield of Sanguinius – 325 (1 has a jump pack)<br /> 2 sang priests w/ jump pack and power weapons- 180<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad w/ Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun- 185<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad w/ Lascannon and plasma gun- 190<br /> 10 man assault squad w/ Sgt. w/ power weapon and combat shield- 210<br /> 10 man assault squad w/ Sgt. w/ power weapon and combat shield- 210<br /> 1x 5 man Sternguard squad/ combi meltas in drop pod- 185<br /> 5 man Devastator w/ 4 lascannons- 190<br /> 5 man Devastator w/ 4 Missile Launchers- 130<br /> Storm Raven gunship w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> - 200<br /> <br /> The idea is the tacs and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> sit back and hold objectives while the assault squads move up w/ the sternguard supporting via dropping in and drawing fire. the Storm Raven is a decent anti-air unit, this list still suffers vs hell drake spam (2-3). really I get tired of playing against those lists. keep one lib with your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> for preffered enemy and bonus cover. it stacks!! <br /> <br /> Sanguinor- 275<br /> 3 sang priests w/ power weapon- 270<br /> 4 10 man Assault squads w/ sang priest sgts w/ power weapons-805<br /> 1 5 man Sternguard w/ combi meltas w/drop pod- 185 <br /> 1 5 man devastators w/ 2 lascannons each- 130<br /> 1 5 man devastators w/ 4 missile launchers- 130<br /> Storm Raven Gunship w/twinlinked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> twinlinked assault cannon- 200<br /> <br /> A much more aggresive list, still suffers from the same thing the above list does. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/558313/6159216.page"><b>kranki wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't think a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> libby can take powers from the big book, also one of the reasons I took Tycho is for the BS5 with the quad gun.<br /> <br /> The Tycho choice isn't really for fluff I'm just looking for some protection for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and he has some utility to do that as well as army wide LD10.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> they can, you just have to roll and can't pick them (unleash rage gives preferred enemy for w/e your fighting so theirs that) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:13:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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