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				<title>1750 Eldar List for Tournament(NO Wave Serpents)-Thoughts?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So I am planning on attending the Heavy Support for Hunger tournament hosted by Thou Shalt Game in Temecula(you can find details in the Tournament Discussions thread on Dakka). I am bringing my Eldar and have come up with the following list, but before I get to that there are two things you need to know:<br /> <br /> -I have 13k of Eldar, if you think something would work better than what I have feel free to suggest as I am for the most part not limited in selection<br /> -The tournament, per <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> tournament specs, switches the Force Org charts for Troops and Heavy Support. This means that you are required to take 2 Heavy Support and can take up to 6, and they are scoring in every mission, not just Big Gunz Never Tire. Troops are restricted to 3 and only score in Big Gunz Never Tire. I am unsure why <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> wanted the tourney run this way but it has apparently secured impressive prize support for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> so on to the list!<br /> <br /> Eldar 1750-Heavy Support for Hunger<br /> Farseer: Runes of Warding<br /> 3xWraithlord: Brightlance, Ghostglaive<br /> Wraithknight: Ghostglaive/Scattershield<br /> 5 Dark Reapers: Exarch with Fast Shot/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EML</span>, Night Vision, all with Starshot missiles(Pretty much Krak Missiles)<br /> 5 Dark Reapers: Exarch with Fast Shot/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EML</span>, all with Starshot missiles(Pretty much Krak Missiles)<br /> <br /> Allied Tau<br /> Batcommander: MultiSpectrum Sensor Suite, PENchip, Command and Control Node, Iridium Armor<br /> 2xBroadside: High Yield Missile Pod<br /> Broadside: Heavy Rail Rifle<br /> <br /> Bastion: Icarus Lascannon<br /> <br /> <br /> The Farseer and Batman Commander go with the Dark Reapers without Night Vision, and all go on top of the bastion. Exarch mans the lascannon to take down fliers. Now I am torn however on the Tau. Broadside are the obvious choice for the Heavy Support, but I also needed more to instakill things like Paladin's, Meganobz, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Characters with a 2+, and any other multiwound 2+ save t4 model. My plan for now is to stick the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(657);'>HYMP</span> Broadside inside the Bastion and every one else chills outside. The Wraith stuff runs up soaking up fire and killing Land Raiders(I expect a few since now they are always scoring). But what do you guys think?<br /> <br /> NOTE: Please don't start a post with "why would <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> make a tourney with these force org rules" or anything like that, I am just looking for critique on my list, not an examination of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> tournament policies(or lack thereof)<br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>1750 Eldar List for Tournament(NO Wave Serpents)-Thoughts?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Whooo an eldar player who doesn't take serpents! It's a miracle! Thank you, you have restored my faith in humanity.<br /> It looks a nice idea for a tournament.<br /> Your hard as nails wraith units will be excellent scorers, ask any tervigon running nid player (in other words, all of them)! With lots of mech going to be around with those force org rules, a few units of spiders and/or hawks will terrorize opponents! Plus spiders aren't too shabby on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> front when guided.<br /> That's my two cents, I dont play eldar though, I just play against them regularly, so you'll know far better than me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:54:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Poly Ranger]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I considered putting in Warp Spiders but I think the Dark Reapers manning the Icarus, along with the Broadside, should hopefully be enough to stop most fliers. If I play against 6 Doom Scythes I'm screwed, but I don't think there is much that can be done about that <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ jathomas2013]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EMLs</span> on the DR Exarchs and just go for starshots instead. I'd also join both squads into one so they can both benefit from the buffs from Mr. Wayne. Sure, you don't get to shoot at two separate targets, but with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> being what it is, I'd expect a large number of silly units that you'd want to sink all your shots into anyway. This way you could also drop the night vision upgrade. Not that it really matters. <br /> <br /> Oh, and I'd just go stock weapons on the Wraithknight. The glaive/shield combo is just a waste. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:47:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/559141/6174786.page"><b>Thud wrote:</b></a><br/>I'd drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EMLs</span> on the DR Exarchs and just go for starshots instead. I'd also join both squads into one so they can both benefit from the buffs from Mr. Wayne. Sure, you don't get to shoot at two separate targets, but with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> being what it is, I'd expect a large number of silly units that you'd want to sink all your shots into anyway. This way you could also drop the night vision upgrade. Not that it really matters. <br /> <br /> Oh, and I'd just go stock weapons on the Wraithknight. The glaive/shield combo is just a waste. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I agree about dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EML</span> to starshot...in this kind of tournament those S4 small blasts won't matter, but the S5 mass dakka might. As far as combining the squads, it has merit but is up to you. There are pro's and cons to both arguments. Also agree on stock wraithknight guns.<br /> <br /> Your lords really need 2 lances. Not sure if you have 2, but take 2. Also dual wrist flamers. You can drop runes of warding from the seer, as you deny on a 4+ against most enemies. A one shot for a 2/3+ deny probably wont matter unless you run into deamon prince spam. Consider a singing spear instead; the S9 should have value in this meta. <br /> <br /> If you want a Bruce Wayne batmander, he needs more upgrades. The neuroweb jammer is criminally undercosted, and well worth it. With the prevelance of armor and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>'s, the onager gauntlet is also a great buy. Should you need to break from combat, the vector retro thrusters give you the ability with Eldar I5! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:52:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dr. Serling]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 Eldar List for Tournament(NO Wave Serpents)-Thoughts?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Really hard to make comments on such a weird format  my gut tells me 19 models is too few at 1750. Wraith units are tough but still.  Personally I would go 3 vaul's wrath and 3 night spinner. But that's a pretty severe departure.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:53:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ j.d.hart]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry yes the Wraithlords have 2 Bright Lances each. I sadly don't have any night spinners. I also used the heavy wraith cannons to model fire prism cannons...regretting that now. I might have to snipe some from Ebay as I can see that in this tourney Heavy Wraithcannons would be way better.<br /> <br /> Not sure on combining the unit because it would make it way too large to fit ontop the bastion. Though I am thinking of dropping a broadside to throw in some jetbikes?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 19:34:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jathomas2013]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't thunk the wraithcannons work better for just this tourney, they work better full stop. Not too sure why anyone would choose the glaive! Apart from it looking cool! But paying points to drop those two epic cannons is a false economy! I'd be taking 2 personally. The ability for them to do some serious flanking with their speed makes them a nuisance! <br /> <br /> I think broadsides are weak stood on their own. Maybe some shield drones? I also agree about dropping the runes, they got nerfed badly in this edition, also consider where you will put him for protection? Consider perhaps a jetbikes? And maybe even the mantle. 3+ armour, 4+ invun and 2+ cover gives him soon good protection if you're not planning on joining a unit. If you are then I'd buy him a jetbike bodyguard!<br /> <br /> I'd also drop a squad of reapers for spiders! I know the reapers score, but spiders are so fast! And they will give you the manoeuvrability that your list lacks a little. They also have some epic weapons.<br /> <br /> These are all opinions though....it's your shout bud!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:44:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Khaine's Wrath]]></author>
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